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Krypto spacers (8mm)
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On 1/8/2001
roger
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Kryptonics uses the roller skate standard for spacers - 8mm. Few skateshops will have them, all rollerskates shops do.
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Kryptos
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On 1/8/2001 Craig
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Hey Leo, i don't know what krypto's you're talking about(old or new 70mm), but i do know that the 11mm spacer is a particularly big spacer, good for turbos. The krypto classic 76mm takes a particularly small spacer, smaller than a normal 10mm one. I have the old 70mm krypto reds, which take a normal 10mm spacer.
The old Krypto 70s definately lose grip with age, my new 76's haven't aged yet, but my new 65mm krypto's seem to be wearing from hard carving, and losing grip. It sounds logical though, a new wheel is smooth, thus has more surface area in contact with the road=stickier, when it's older, it gets all scrubbed and riffled...less contact = slippery.
wow what a bollocks post, must be the worst constructed piece of english i have ever composed..too bad
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Kryptonics wheels
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On 1/8/2001
Leo
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Hey, i was wondering if anyone there have tried the other wheels from kryptos, i was checking their website and i think that the performace wheels will meet some of my expectations....any suggestion?
leo
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Summits?
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On 1/6/2001
Scabs
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Are those Summits on the BMW Streetcarver?
I`m not opposed to the Summits if they are slower. Just another trade-off for hard carves with security. Also...since they have that split hub system. maybe they can put out harder rubber (tires) that will improve the speed factor. They also said urethane tires are in the works so lets see.
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Gravity 66mm Super G's
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On 1/5/2001
DT
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I picked up a set of the white 97a and the red 80a. Tonight i ran the 97a s and loved them. They are so much faster than what i've been running. For the first time I was able to keep my speed up in the park. I also got the 80a s for the Vans Combi pool and will give a review on them later next week. For now i give these wheels a huge thumbs up!
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wheel size
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On 1/5/2001 Carlos
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Thanks for the comments.
I´ll finally ger the G&S pintail, so I´ll let you know. But I am still not sure what wheels to get. They will be 78 a for a smooth ride, but 65mm, 70mm or 76mm??.
I tend to think "the bigger the better" but I am not sure if I there is any trade off with big wheels or If I am missing any advantage of smaller wheels.
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longboard
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On 1/5/2001 mbhidel
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Yo Carlos,
I'm riding a 42'' Arbor pin tail w/ green Krypto Hawaii 70mm. I love it. Fast, light, the krytos rock. I also have Kryto route 65 red (78A) on my street deck and they're cool; fast, grippy, no pitting. Both are a good longboard ride.
If you go w/ the fiberflex please post. I'm a big fan of G&S.
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Exkate trubos
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On 1/5/2001 Chris
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Hey,
Whats the cons of screwing the turbos in backwards. Theyre offset. So I can do it to shorten the wheel base, but whats the cons of it?
Chris
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kryptos 70mm again
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On 1/5/2001
Leo
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Me again with kryptos, wich spacer is the perfect for this wheel, i have 11mm (i think)and it shakes from one side to side inside the wheel.
another thing, i think i posted this bfore, is that true that this wheels tends to lose their "gripness" with time?
pls let me know
leo
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summit difference
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On 1/5/2001 Herbn
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one of these differences IS slower,another may be grippy in wet conditions,or very smooth,but slow(er)none the less.
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Wheel Size
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On 1/4/2001
Thruster
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Carlos
Just some info for you I ride the sector 9 pin tail non concaved with 65 krypto which are really
soft and ride smooth as hell. My top speed on this set up is around 35 but when
I switch to the envy 82's which are harder I can get a little more speed out of them
But I prefer the softer ones because they grip better in the turns. But if you are into going fast I
would recomend the Randells over any other truck.
Later
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SUMMIT SLICKS
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On 1/3/2001
Mike
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hi there,
i have to make some things clear, our Wheel concept was never designet for speed, the idea behinde that 2 Rim system is , the option of changing the componet depending on the surface you ride on. The main problem with a rim how is used many times again and again, is that the bearing seat will ware out after a while. We have founde a solution, so that is not going to happend. A other benefit of that construction is that it`s very precise, what means less projected resistance = more speed.
All i say here, you will like does wheels, but just beaware
they feel different from all the others.
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Summit
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On 1/3/2001 DT
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Unfortantly its not the normal riders that go out and sue a company. K. Head sued Krypto when he melted one of their wheels on his street luge(this is the same guy who love skeleton-head first luge). When everyone at the time knew about them, was it easy money? i dont know, but all it takes is one fall, one injury, or even worse one death to ruin something good. I feel its better to wait and have something that will be on the market for a long time to come. You never know these wheels may become a staple in racing and if they were to be pulled after a few months, well that would just suck!
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Summit Wheels
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On 1/2/2001
Scabs
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Hey Mike,
I can understand your delimma on the insurance but it`s one that can be cleared rather easily. Wrap the wheels in plastic and on the outside of the plastic, put a sticker that says "Use at your own risk". And if that don`t work for ya, have your legal guys draw up a "Hold Harmless Agreement"
Trust me when I say that most of us have broken bones before while sk8boarding and haven`t sued anyone. Your potential clientel just isn`t that type.
The problem is that you guys are posting on this board about their virtues and we can`t even test them ourselves. You`d think you have some experimental 2004 Porsche that you have to keep a lid on....They are just skateboard wheels.
It almost seems like your product is not ready for the market but between you and Rene`s posts, our impression is otherwise.
Email a Hold Harmless Agreement to me and I`ll sign it, have it notarised, and fax it back to you. I live in South Florida and it rains quite often. I could use wheels that grip the wet pavement.
Oh...you could respond to my post on yoyr guestbook.
Brady "Scabs"
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a million bugs!
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On 1/2/2001 todcar
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I didn't know bugs could ride skateboards - let alone break their legs.
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wheel insurance?
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On 1/2/2001 shnitzel
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sucks when people can't take responsibility for themselves. when you leave the front door of your house you are vulnerable to probability and coincidence. nothing anyone can do about it so QUIT TRYING!!! sorry, got a little carried away there. protect yourself, don't rely on others to do this for you...
ship the wheels over for the rediculous price they are. say they're tested to 15 mph safely and anything beyond that is AT OWN RISK, and lets have 'em!
only a few things make me bitter in life and the sue your a$% mentality is definitely one of them.
having said........ i think i've got a set of these wheels on their way to canada if they're not already here!!!! can't wait to try 'em!!!!!
later (eh)
shnitzel
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Summit Slicks
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On 1/2/2001
Mike
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hi gys,
we are just not ready yet with everything. But somethings sometimes take longer as expected ! There is different reasons wy we are not on the US market yet pricing is one but that is just a question of quantity. ther is also insurance things how need to be cleared ! We would be f**cked if someone barkes his leg and we have to pay 1 Millon bugs ! But don`t worry you will get your hands on the slicks soon, i keeo you posted.
P.S. Duane i received your mail, and i will get back to you sometimes this week. Sounds very interessting to me !
happy new year to ya all !
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wheel size
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On 1/1/2001 Carlos
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I am planning to put together a lonboard, probably fibreflex pintail 44" or Sector 9 concave pintail. I am not sure about the wheel size though. I want somthing big to keep speed and about 78a for a soft ride on bad pavement. Should I go for something softer. Is there much different between sizes 70 and 76?. If I use 76, can I use something softer than 78a and have the same speed as 70mm & 78a?
Any problem with 76 wheels and those decks?. I don´t think the fibreflew will bite, what about the S9.
If big wheels are so good for longboards and keep speed better than smaller wheels, why so many people use 70´s or even 65´s?
Am I missing something?
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S/S bad math
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On 1/1/2001 powder finger
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make that 38% lighter. :-)
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me, me, me
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On 1/1/2001
hugh r
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I am too old to be embarrased about being wraa, wrawraa, wrong...
I would, however, be embarrased if I couldn't admit when I was wrong... HR
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Hub dimensions
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On 1/1/2001
Duane
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Your slight measurement differences on the hubs could easily be accounted for by changing the hub compound, or the molding conditions for the hubs. So, the different sizes could pop out of the same mold, if conditions are changed. The hubs are probably Nylon (also known as polyamide, Kevlar, etc.), which is a crystalline plastic that shrinks a lot when cooled in the mold. Chris is correct about the mold cost; Nylon is molded at about 10,000 psi so molds are much more expensive than for the poured urethane; I'd guess 25-50,000 dollars for a single-cavity hub mold. Nylon also swells up to 3% if kept in very humid air, by absorbing water from the air. Loses half its stiffness, too, so keep your wheels dry if you want the hubs stiff.
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Hugh Hugh Hugh
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On 1/1/2001 DT
wrote in from
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now dont YOU feel embarrassed
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spacers spacers spacers
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On 12/31/2000
hugh r
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Chris,
Here is what I found on the shake my wild hub test...
11 mm spacers fit flush in the purple turbos... but slightly pushed the bearings out in the bombs (I was too lazy and its too late at night to pull apart the m-80's)
The 10 mm spacers jiggled slightly in bombs and a whole bunch in the turbos.
When I measure the space between the bearings, there is a skinny 1 mm diference between the two full sets.
Your argument that the hubs are all milled the same does make sense to me.
It appears that I was wraa... wrawra... wraaaa... wrong (just the Fonzie in me)
I guess what I have is either a matched set of oversized turbos... or a matched set of undersized cherry bombs.
HR
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S/S Sport Xtreme
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On 12/31/2000 powder finger
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I put these on the Duck w/ R2s and 1/4" riser(2 shockpads).
As advertised, the wheels grip like nothing else and are very quiet & smooth on smooth-to-halfway-smooth conditions. They will roll over anything. However, if the road is really bad Power Paws are smoothest.
As you would expect, they are sluggish. (16oz !)
Even mild carves loose speed fast. Even though you can't slide, you can control speed better than any other wheel. They are a special ops wheel for locations that have speed to spare.
The duck goes great w/ 4" wheels. I couldn't imagine using the massive 1" risers that come w/ the wheels. I normally like flex. However, when going scary fast around a tight corner you can really feel the G forces pushing against your feet. The duck is solid as a rock. The deep concave works great w/ the super-sticky wheels for fast yet tight full standing 180 chi gong super carves.
The height isn't as awkward as you would think. Even pushing down the sidewalk isn't as bad as you would think. It feels natural.
The rig also goes white-knuckle fast on hard-packed dirt. Carving the trail is more fun than I ever could have imagined.
The rig sits much lower than most dirt boards but you sink in the soft sandy dirt at the bottom of steep hills. Dirt wears down 4x4 tires faster than pavement but I don't think it matters here. These are tough wheels.
It's comforting to know that you have the offroad escape option. You may need to exercise this option given the fact that you can't slide to stop yourself.
These are not the wheels for making the ride last as long as possible into the flats. But they corner like nothing else. Nothing could make 'em seize. I'm willing to bet that the 8 Balls are a more reasonable choice. At 62% lighter they should maintain their speed better. I like the radiused riding surface.
Nothin' like 'em.
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Hugh, Hugh, Hugh
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On 12/31/2000
Chris Chaput
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My best guess is that eXkate gave you spacers that are too small and will rattle. They would have charged you 25 cents a piece for the right ones.
Do the shake test. Put a large spacer in a Turbo, a Cherry Bomb and a M-80 and put two bearings (all the way in) each wheel. Your first observation is that the bearings in all three wheels are seated entirely. The spacer won't travel up and down when you shake it, but it will move from side to side. If you put the smaller spacer and bearings in any of those three wheels, it will move up and down when you shake it. Put the small spacer and bearings in a Power Paw or Krypto and it won't shake, put the larger spacer in either of those wheels and the bearing doesn't seat all the way. I have boxes of all three eXkate wheels (older and two weeks young) and all of their hubs are the same. Hubs are the more expensive part of developing a wheel (assuming a CNC machine to make the wheel molds) and they wouldn't change it for one wheel and not the others, and certainly not for 1 milimeter. If, in the last week, eXkate had their hub manufacturer change the "one" hub to allow the use of standard spacers, I could understand that some old wide set hubs could coexist with some newer narrower ones but before I speculate any more, do the shake test. Don't wait until next year, shake it now.
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