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Doublewides
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On 3/20/2006
Chris Chaput
wrote in from
United States
(66.116.nnn.nnn)
Actually, the glue isn't necessary. I was going to a race where I was concerned that the organizer was going to ban my board for having 8 wheels, so I played it safe and made sure that I had "only one big wheel" on each corner. The wheels could actually work better in tight turns if the inside and outside halves were allowed to spin independently of one another.
Even if you glued the halves together, as soon as the wheel was toast, you would toss the wheels only after salvaging a whole set of (8) bearings from the insides. If the 8 wheels purchased to make the Doublewides wear 50% longer than 4 normal Flywheels, then the overall cost per mile is only 33% more than usual.
Top end speeds are more noticably lower in 70mm wheels. As soon as you get to 76mm wheels (or larger), it's hard to find a hill fast enough to feel the difference. Aerodynamics will play a bigger role at 50mph than your wheel's diameter.
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wheel size and gluing double wides
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On 3/20/2006 herbn
wrote in from
United States
(205.188.nnn.nnn)
i've found that wheelsize does not effect the top speed as much as you might think,once you get into the longboard sizes. Small wheels accellerate quicker and if topping out at 40 happens close to the bottom of the hill and the pavement is relatively smooth then the smaller wheels could win,big wheels smooth out rough pavement a bit so if you take that advantage away. Trapping bearings in a double wide wheel that's gonna last a really long time,somebody was talking about how good they ride in the rain, ouch that's alot of money in urithane and bearings to tie together for life. Apparently gluing is necessary,i would make a metal or plastic core ,that holds a set of micro bearings in the place where you trap those two abec 7 biltin bearings.
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difference in wheel size
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On 3/20/2006
doox
wrote in from
United States
(67.180.nnn.nnn)
Say a guy bombs a hill on 75mm wheels and tops out at 40mph. If the same person bombs the same hill under the same conditions but with 90mm wheels, how much faster do you think he would go?
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go green
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On 3/20/2006 Luis Lins
wrote in from
Switzerland
(85.0.nnn.nnn)
i really like the flashbacks, but when i try the grippins i loved.. i like the grip in the turns, go fast and perfect grip for mr, now i would like to try the flywheels 76mm, i like small wheels, Martinn i need see if this wheels work with me too hehehehe.. but grippins 78a and 81a the best for me..
i think the wheels 70mm are good for aceleration in the turns, i dont know about wheels 76mm..
hugs
luis
go green
luis lins
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ABEC 11 83mm Fly Doublewides
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On 3/20/2006 trevor
wrote in from
United States
(209.68.nnn.nnn)
where do you buy or make ABEC 11 83mm Fly Doublewides?
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alleycat wheels
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On 3/17/2006
jaWes
wrote in from
Sweden
(217.211.nnn.nnn)
Back in the 70´s..a friend of mine had this plastic board..which was concidered to be the king of all plastic boards here in Sweden..mostly due to the very smooth soft yellow wheels.
I´ve been searchin for those allecat wheels (the board was black and had the text alleycat, and the wheels were wide and yellow and VERY soft)..without any result. Do any of you know where to find a NOS set..or just anything else about those wheels? Duro..size..?
Would really appriciate an answer!
Thanks,
J
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double wide
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On 3/16/2006 dt
wrote in from
United States
(68.5.nnn.nnn)
they slide just fine, remember they still keep the same outside radius as the 83mm flywheel. Chris asked me not so slide them when he loaned them to me because he didnt want them wear out unnecesarily, my fat ass is 222lbs. In the rain, they slid on me a few times, but hooked back up with no delay when i choose. I'm positive they will slide just fine. Perhaps a little slower than normal flywheels just because of the increased width equals increased resistance.
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Chaput's wheels
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On 3/15/2006
Jeff Kasson
wrote in from
United States
(24.210.nnn.nnn)
I just posted a thank you to Chris on the bearing site. I just wanted to thank Chris for his constant inovation. I have been riding no skoolz in the parks, and recently ordered zig-zags. I visited the rained-out buckey open, and most of the riders seemed to be on zig-zags. We need to support this guy. He is making excellent designs for any type of riding... in a wide range of duros. Thanks Chris!
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no sliding?
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On 3/15/2006
sean c
wrote in from
United States
(165.29.nnn.nnn)
maybe i missed this, are you not supposed to slide double wides? will it tear the two wheels apart if you do?
sean c
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DT SEEING DOUBLE
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On 3/13/2006 dt
wrote in from
United States
(69.3.nnn.nnn)
I've been very fortunate to get some quality time on the ABEC 11 83mm Fly Doublewides. I've tried them on multiple boards, different bushing set ups, different wheel base, different trucks & baseplates. I've ridden them on smooth butter roads, rough cheese grader, over bumpy horrific obstacles, in the hot sun, at night, with tailwinds, and against headwinds. Hills that have long flat sections, uphill, parking garages,5% baby hills (gmr), and hills well over 20% grade with extreme off camber sweepers. In the rain, through the mud; you would think i was going to grandmama's house. The only thing i did NOT test was its ability while sliding, and this was strictly out of respect for my anti-sliding orders.
So what did i learn?
These wheels work outstanding on rough surfaces, their dampening qualities are unsurpassed, and traction provided is more than enough below 50mph. In fact they were overkill at the Raging Waters Race.
But once you reach higher speeds, these wheels really come into their own! I've been able to PUSH through extremely off camber turns that would certainly PULL other set ups without having to brake a tuck.
Most people don't enjoy riding the hills I love the most, but many people only have rough, chewed up roads near them. I highly recommend them to people looking for a confidence booster on such terrain.
I prefer doublewides up front with single widths in the rear. At one time
during practice i stepped on my rear dw's while kicking hard - i nearly fell over and that was the last day of that. However in the rain, i ran dw's all around. They worked well at cutting through the water and sprayed me like a dalmation on his favorite fire hydrant. I would like to try deeper grooves that are slightly wider by a few millimeters for rain riding purposes. We'll just have to wait for Chris to make a intended rain tire, i know he's already thought of this
check the speedboarding forum for more info,shoots
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On 3/13/2006 dan@csu
wrote in from
United States
(216.17.nnn.nnn)
nope
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pics
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On 3/13/2006 dt
wrote in from
United States
(68.5.nnn.nnn)
i was told my pics in another forum didnt post properly. can you guys see them?
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DT SEEING DOUBLE
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On 3/13/2006 DT
wrote in from
United States
(68.5.nnn.nnn)
I've been very fortunate to get some quality time on the ABEC 11 83mm Fly Doublewides. I've tried them on multiple boards, different bushing set ups, different wheel base, different trucks & baseplates. I've ridden them on smooth butter roads, rough cheese grader, over bumpy horrific obstacles, in the hot sun, at night, with tailwinds, and against headwinds. Hills that have long flat sections, uphill, parking garages,5% baby hills (gmr), and hills well over 20% grade with extreme off camber sweepers. In the rain, through the mud; you would think i was going to grandmama's house. The only thing i did NOT test was its ability while sliding, and this was strictly out of respect for my anti-sliding orders.
So what did i learn?
These wheels work outstanding on rough surfaces, their dampening qualities are unsurpassed, and traction provided is more than enough below 50mph. In fact they were overkill at the Raging Waters Race.
But once you reach higher speeds, these wheels really come into their own! I've been able to PUSH through extremely off camber turns that would certainly PULL other set ups without having to brake a tuck.
Most people don't enjoy riding the hills I love the most, but many people only have rough, chewed up roads near them. I highly recommend them to people looking for a confidence booster on such terrain.
I prefer doublewides up front with single widths in the rear. At one time
during practice i stepped on my rear dw's while kicking hard - i nearly fell over and that was the last day of that. However in the rain, i ran dw's all around. They worked well at cutting through the water and sprayed me like a dalmation on his favorite fire hydrant. I would like to try deeper grooves that are slightly wider by a few millimeters for rain riding purposes. We'll just have to wait for Chris to make a intended rain tire, i know he's already thought of this ;)
check the speedboarding forum for more info
shoots
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A GOOD ABEC11 WHEEL
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On 3/11/2006 ALEX
wrote in from
United States
(68.36.nnn.nnn)
HEY CRAIG!!! MY FRIEND HAS A REALLY SWEET LANDYACHTS DECK WITH SOME ABEC11 FLYWHEELS 83MM WHEELS. tHEY ARE THE BEST WHEELS OUT THERE. THEY'RE GRIPPY AS HELL AND ROLL LIKE A TANK. THEIR CONTACT PATCH AND SIZE MAKE THEM THEM AN AMAZING ALL AROUND WHEEL. IF YOU CAN LAY DOWN THE DOLLARS I WOULD STRONGLY RECOMEND GETTING THEM.
KEEP ON BOARDING!!!!
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Red and White Landyachtz Hawks
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On 3/11/2006
jaWes
wrote in from
Sweden
(217.211.nnn.nnn)
I really need to get my hands on a set of Hawks white 85mm and Hawks red 85mm, Landyachtz seems to be out of stock, any other site that sells those wheels?
jawestyle@msn.com
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Avalons & Cambrias
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On 3/8/2006
Paul P
wrote in from
United States
(72.43.nnn.nnn)
Hey Joe,
The Avalons in early 2002 were white 80a & gray 85a and later they added red 75a.
The Cambrias were white and shades of gray. The harder the duro's the darker the gray. The duros were 78a,82a,86a and 90a. It's tough to tell the duros apart as the wheel color can fade over time and the batch color may vary as well. If all else fails, the bounce test and lip press test work well.
In Sept. 2003, they added turquoise in 78a to the Avalon line. They added a black 90a Avalon somewhere along the way as well.
At this time the Cambrias were 74a red, 78a white, 82a light gray, 86a med. gray, 90a dark gray and 94a black.
I was introduced to slalom in the fall of 2004 and the shades of gray were out and the rainbow of colors were in. The Cambrias were/are 74a red, 78a blue, 82a green, 86a yellow, 90a purple and 94a black. The Avalons are similar in colors and duros except the Avalons also have 80a in white.
I think that concludes our history lesson for today Joe.
Congrats on your recent trip to the podium. Two in a row, that's awesome. Is Fatboy using a banned substance in his pies? Hope to see you in Needham. Perhaps we will see a hat trick in the near future?
Best Regards,
Paul
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Thanks Paul
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On 3/7/2006 Joe I
wrote in from
United States
(63.87.nnn.nnn)
Turner/3dm have changed colors at least twice since I started buying wheels from them. Present websites don't help.
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3dm colors
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On 3/7/2006
Paul Steuri
wrote in from
United States
(207.200.nnn.nnn)
Just look at websites like longboardshop.de, milehighskate.com, or 3dm-sport.com, etc., or search google for sites.
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Avalons and Cambrias
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On 3/7/2006
Joe I
wrote in from
United States
(63.87.nnn.nnn)
OK, so in gearing up for what is going to be a banner year in bringing new people to slalom, I'm gathering used wheels to help outfit new kids cheaply.
My problem is that I'm hard pressed to remember the difference between light grey, grey, dark grey, black, turquoise, tomato, forest green, lipstick red, and patchwork madras plaid.
Any of you skate librarians got a list? I've got a sharpie and will not ask again. I've searched and cannot find it here on NCDSA.
Joe
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doublewide alternetives
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On 3/6/2006
Paul Steuri
wrote in from
United States
(207.200.nnn.nnn)
Anyone ever tried making doublewides out of 70's flashbacks, since they are already sideset, or tried it with any other wheels for that matter?
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kryptonics
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On 3/4/2006 Ollie
wrote in from
South Africa
(198.54.nnn.nnn)
Is there any difference between the Italian kryptonics and the American kryptonics in the chemicals they use to make them?
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GripSkoolZ
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On 3/2/2006
K-LEE
wrote in from
United States
(172.197.nnn.nnn)
I wanted a ditch-oriented, slidable 70mm-ish centerset wheel from Abec 11 for a really long time. Then I just got some Comet wheels and now I'm happy as a clam. It's all good though, I still have green wheels on half of my quiver, and I'm on the verge of ordering a set of ZigZags. This will be my first set of Retro wheels, and I'm really looking forward to the Reflex formula!
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66mm zigzags
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On 3/1/2006
Eric
wrote in from
United States
(66.0.nnn.nnn)
Anyone try these wheels-66mm zigzagz on old Indy 88mm hangers yet. Are they offset/centerset? Just wondering if the wheels are too wide for a 88mm hanger? Any advice is helpful.
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NoSkoolz against Skwertz and Vertz
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On 3/1/2006
PaulW
wrote in from
United Kingdom
(81.19.nnn.nnn)
A side by side (a la GripSkoolz below) of the three wheels would be good. I'd like a narrower NoSkoolz. Is that the Vertz?
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