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Dan's wheel choices
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On 12/26/2006 PSR
wrote in from
United States
(75.68.nnn.nnn)
Hey, Dan, you're welcome. When I ask Cliff to show Schwippert how to slide, he used my 88A Flashbacks on my old Airtech. That worked, but Cliff still thought they were a tad too grippy. 84A's in a Flashback will have better grip, and be just that much smoother. Those photos of Duane I tried pulling up, note that those ARE Flashbacks he's tooling down, and I've rode those wheels. The belting/rounding works, so if the wheel's too grippy, there ya go...
For the record, I found Strikers to be good in grip, but easier to break into a slide due to the rounded lip shape/larger core.
Either way, you'll be liking it... ;-)
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abec wheels
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On 12/26/2006 dan
wrote in from
United States
(68.195.nnn.nnn)
hey psr thanks. i think that im gunna go with the Flashbacks 84a or 88a still havnt decided. im running 65mm ninballs now so the flashbacks will be 70mm. i think that the flashback will be a bit better fit for me since im not goin for total sliding. im a downhill/carver style rider so i dont want a wheel that made for sliding only. anyway thanks for ur help. ive read online that there is only a tiny difference in feel between 84 and 88, so hopefully ill make the right choice. i ride parking garages moslty and some smooth downhill streets. i notice these wheels are expensive so im just tryin to find the right one so i wont regret spending the money
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fastest wheels
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On 12/26/2006 Jack
wrote in from
United States
(68.192.nnn.nnn)
WHat do you think the fastest longboard wheel is? I'm looking at 76MM 78A Gumballs now, but was just wondering if anybody had any better suggestions.
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78A vs 88A
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On 12/25/2006 PSR
wrote in from
United States
(75.68.nnn.nnn)
Dan, you'll find that on 'normal' everyday tarmac, in fair weather, the 88A's will feel pretty smooth still. Warmer weather will make them a better ride, but unlike 78A, they won't go all gooey on ya. Cold weather, you'll definately notice the extra hardness, both in ride quality, and in grip, as both these things will decrease. On rougher roads, you'll find that 88A will 'tingle the toes', and be slower, too. One fix is simple; add urethane or rubber 'shock pads' between the trucks and deck to absorb some of the vibration. This won't help speed on rougher tar, but it'll feel better. On smooth surfaces, expect More Speed than 78A's, especially in warmer weather. (by way of example, when I was in School in Phoenix,Az, I used 90A's for cruising the cement ditches, as they gave me good speed, grip, slidability, but I could still hustle down back alleyways or deal with lumpy sidewalks. When I first got there, I found out quickly that anything softer than 87A was useless for street cruising, as the heat just made soft wheels too soft. 95A/97A became my normal wheel for exploring pools and for ramp use, but were too rough in many street situations.)
The thing with Strikers will be that big core. It'll give a stiffer ride on some surfaces, but will also keep the bearings lined up in slides. Overall, I don't think you'll be dissapointed, but the differences may take a little gettin' used to.
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abec 11 gumballs
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On 12/25/2006
2-ro
wrote in from
United States
(72.199.nnn.nnn)
i need some advice...
should i get some gumballs?
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Gumball/strikers
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On 12/24/2006 dan
wrote in from
United States
(68.194.nnn.nnn)
hey thanks alot for all the info. i think im gunna go with the 77mm 88 strikers. im hoping it will be faster and i will still be able to carve up nice but also lay it down for a slide. how much of a difference in smoothness from my 78a to these new one will there be?
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Flashback photos
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On 12/24/2006 PSR
wrote in from
United States
(75.68.nnn.nnn)
Yeah, those pics didn't take... They're worth checking out, just to see the belting process, and results.
BTW, anyone seen Duane lately?
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Gumball/Striker {+ Flashback by Duane}
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On 12/23/2006 PSR
wrote in from
United States
(75.68.nnn.nnn)
Dan in case this dosen't "Copy" with the photos, I used 'search','Duane' in 'sliding stopping' to find the old post below. I assume you can figure out how Gumballs might look after recieving a similar belting treatment, but know it's a bit of work! You can probably write flashbacks off your list IF you're looking for more speed than you current wheels (so, 76mm makes sense for you). Also, if you've got smoother tar, or want more slide, consider Strikers in 92A? Anyway, I hope Duane's stuff shows; if not, use my 'search' criteria.
flashbacks are nice ! On 7/21/2004 Duane wrote in from 68.15.xxx.xxx:
I can't stand even skating on anything harder than 90A on the street, so if they slide well or not is moot. I find that the flashbacks slide well at 88A. If you don't like the square edges, sand them off ! This set took only 20 minutes with 80 grit:
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gumballs
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On 12/23/2006 dan
wrote in from
United States
(68.194.nnn.nnn)
hey thanks for the reply. now i just have to decide wheather to get abec gumballs, abec 70s flashback or strickers. this stuff is confusing
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Gumball/Striker
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On 12/23/2006 PSR
wrote in from
United States
(75.68.nnn.nnn)
Dan, I used Gumballs when I raced at Morro Bay's Super-G, and then I ran 84a's up front, 78A at the rear. This was not a silky-smooth tar surface (though it wasn't bad), and I had plenty of grip. Now, I don't own any 88A Gumballs, nor do I currently have Strikers(used to have a set, 84A), but I do have 88A and 84A Flashbacks. The compound in 84A that ABEC 11 uses is a 'dual purpose' kind of urethane, where it provides good grip on medium/smooth surfaces, but will slide when pushed. The 88A still has some grip (you'll notice this on concrete or fresh tar), but does slide easier and longer. So, in picking a durometer, I'd go with 88A for most road surfaces for a nice 'balance' between grip and slide.
Now, with wheel size/shape, the Gumball can be a 'pushable' wheel, but it is designed with consistent grip in mind. You can modify it by re-shaping the outer lip to a more rounded profile, kinda like what Slalomers have been doing to Avila/Avalons. Duane did this kindas stuff using a power belt sander to his Flashbacks a few years back, making them nearly as rounded in profile as a Powell Cubic or Bulldog conical. I'll see if I can't dig that post/photo outa the archives here (may take awhile).
The shaping on the Striker is for Sliding, but still keeps some grip due to it's width. My 84A's I had were not as sticky as I'd hoped, not as slidy as I'd like (they were 66mm; the 76mm Striker may do better by carrying more speed). If I were to get those again, I'd grab the 76mm/88A for use on smoother tar and fast slides. The only downside on the Strikers Vs. the Gumballs would be that the bigger core transmits vibration more, where the Gumballs just roll thru smoothly.
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can u slide on 84a?
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On 12/23/2006
kfir
wrote in from
United States
(68.194.nnn.nnn)
hey, can u slide with an 84a wheel? how much of a difference is thier between 84a and 88a
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Gumball wheels
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On 12/22/2006
dan
wrote in from
United States
(68.194.nnn.nnn)
hey ive been checkin online for some new wheels for my 38 inch longboard. im looking to get some gumballs but i dont wanna make a mistake. im using sector 9 65mm 78a wheels. i want a bigger wheel so i can go faster but i wanna try sliding too. could anyone tell if what would be better for goin downhill and carving as well and goin down for a slide to. Should i purchase the Abec Gumballs 76mm 84a or the 76mm 88a. Or shoul di purcahse the aBEC 11 Strikers Powersliding wheels 76mm 84a or 88a. i need a wheel that i can slide with but not loose my gripping carving power to much. i ride parking garages alot so i need to be able to turn hard but i wouldlike to slide once in a while. any help woul dbe apprciated
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good fast wheels
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On 12/22/2006 some dude
wrote in from
United States
(69.143.nnn.nnn)
to the dude tlakin about fast longboard wheels sector 9 76 mm are nice i ride thme and 69 slalom wheels aslo from secotr 9
tunnel wheeles are nice as well
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good fast wheels
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On 12/19/2006
eric arteaga
wrote in from
United States
(208.66.nnn.nnn)
i want some good fast wheels to bomb hills and carve . Wich wheels should i get. ooo i like surf style .
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Longboard sliding wheels
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On 12/18/2006 SXE Phil
wrote in from
United States
(70.23.nnn.nnn)
85a wheels are good. I've been using Powell Bombers for years. Theyt slide well, and you can carve pretty hard with them as well.
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Longboard sliding wheels?
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On 12/18/2006
mark
wrote in from
United States
(68.194.nnn.nnn)
yo can anyone tell me what a good sliding wheel choice would be for my longboard? i have a 38 inch board with 65mm 78a wheels that are really soft and really grippy. i dont wanna really wanna loose my grip but i want to be able to slide a bit. so basically im wondering what would be a good wheel choise that would give me good carving ability and will slide when i need it to. if anyone could help much appriciated
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sc's "poem"
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On 12/15/2006
JBH
wrote in from
United States
(165.134.nnn.nnn)
Hey, sc, that's some pretty cool free verse you posted there. Sounds like e.e. cummings...
goad posting for wheel advice
and peta parties
with panda
pie
are equally
likely
:-)
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sliding
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On 12/12/2006 some dude
wrote in from
United States
(69.143.nnn.nnn)
what are a good set up of big sliding wheels
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Water-Ski set-up
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On 12/9/2006 PSR
wrote in from
United States
(75.68.nnn.nnn)
Scott, keep the flex of the ski in mind with wedges, as a bendable ski won't need much (if any) wedging to turn deeper. The curve of the deck while flexed will help it crank a tighter line.
As for wheel width, my usual rule of "match the wheel/truck combo to the deck width" dosen't really apply here, because of two factors. One is that there's enough board length to keep the rider from stepping onto a wheel that sticks out while pushing, The other is that the torsional flex in wooden skis won't let you run a wide truck and still turn (composite construction skis won't twist, so wide trucks work).
In the classic sense, the trucks Should Be tall + narrow, with fatter wheels, both of which are available again. New-Age equipped, I'd use Gullwing Sidewinders or some other 'Surfy' feeling truck, and either Strikers (for speed slides) or inverted Avilas (for mad-fast carves). For 'footwork', I'd run new Bennetts and Retro Bertz or GF Hurley trucks with soft Tunnels or Bulldog Shugo's.
Nice to have choices again, as my last 'ski' ran ACS 651's and Stradas, only, what 9 years ago... ;-D
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Water Ski Trucks
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On 12/3/2006
Scott
wrote in from
United States
(69.249.nnn.nnn)
Thanks PSR, for the info. For what we'll be doing cruising around the street, I wouldn't think having the wheels stick out past the deck is terribly important.
Think I should use angled pads?
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MMMMMHHH Momos
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On 12/2/2006
Eddy Texas Outlaws
wrote in from
United States
(199.91.nnn.nnn)
Must have some Momos. Expect a call mi Amigo Chris. Your Amigo Eddy Texas Outlaws.
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burning bowls
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On 12/2/2006 Julien
wrote in from
United States
(24.23.nnn.nnn)
I think he was talking about a different kind of bowl, hehe. I can't imagine riding a 57" in bowl. I think the tunnels might be a bit small (only 63mm right). If you want an oldschool looking wheel you could check out the Retro zigzags in translucent red. If you're looking for something even bigger the avilas and speedvents could be an option although you're gonna probably have to throw some more riser on the deck to get clearance. wheels with big lips like that will give you more grip but may be a bit slower than something that's got a thinner profile like a striker. The comet wheels are pretty nice, lightweight cuz they're only 68mm and a pretty narrow contact patch. On sale at milehighskates too
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CBark's GS Setup
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On 12/2/2006
Chris Chaput
wrote in from
United States
(66.116.nnn.nnn)
He was using 83mm Lime Momos on Fyre Trucks.
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Curious
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On 12/2/2006
Eddy Texas Outlaws
wrote in from
United States
(199.91.nnn.nnn)
Does anyone know what wheels C-Bark was using at DHB on the G S. Just Curious. Your Amigo Eddy Texas Outlaws
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Water Ski trucks
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On 12/2/2006 PSR
wrote in from
United States
(75.68.nnn.nnn)
For quick manuvering, with FAT wheels (like Flashbacks, Roadie Racers or Tunnels), look at G F Hurley's retro truck. For the Zig's, the narrow Bennett Vector. Tracker Mid-Tracs, Full-Tracs or RTX's would be good, too. The Mid's will be great with fat wheels, the Full's with mid-set wheels (Cambrias, Krypto Hawaii), and the RTX is like an Indy 101, so it's fairly quick, but can be set-up mellower. In all cases, look at Khiro's bushings for that extra-soft or soft feel in turns, which will be good with a lighter rider.
Water Skis! Yeah, they make killer home-brewed longboards!!
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