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Spacers
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On 4/23/2001 Herbn
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Spacers hardly warrent the must have,"you're an idiot if you don't use them" attitude,sure they keep the inner races aliegned.They really don't;well hardly ever,let you tighten the axle nuts all the way,still gotta back off a bit.If your bearings' inner race spins around the axle while your riding the board,you seriously need new bearings.If the bearings were locked into the wheels by snaprings,like the thin snaprings that hold the seals/shields into some good bearings,then suddenly the spacers would really start to do serious good,snapring grooves could be put in wheel cores,and if you were having original molds made,it shouldn't add much cost,and customers who are not that particular,or just are not that tech, could do without.They wouldn't even notice the groove.This coming from someone who has locked the inner bearings of his skateboard to the axle with press fit, machined, semicromed custom spacers.
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spacers
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On 4/22/2001
Bob
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Thanks for the plug for my "about spacers" page.
On the topic of spacers...
I was riding with one of the young scientist/engineers from my workplace (I say young -- he's about my age -- early to mid 30s). He's sort of new to longboarding, having only skated a bit as a kid.
He picked up his board and showed me the sideways play in the wheels, and asked if it was supposed to be like that.
I explained about spacers, took his wheel off, put in some spacers, and tightened the nuts down.
Being an engineer, he immediately understood that the bearing should be spinning on the balls, not the inner race spinning around the axle.
The interesting thing -- he wondered if the inner race spinning around the axle -- as in the "no spacer" set up, might cause wear to the axle, from metal on metal spin.
I don't think it would cause that much, as I think you still get most of the spin from the ball bearings, but it is something to think about.
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bearing spacers
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On 4/21/2001 slappy maxwell
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Right on PCB!
Don't be stoopid and leave out the spacers! For anyone that rides without them check out the links page and click on the link about bearing spacers.
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China Minimisers
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On 4/20/2001 PCB
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Herb,
Can I order some econo minimisers from you and your shop?
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AbS
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On 4/20/2001 Herbn
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They say they got'm,i got a few sets heading towards my shop should see them late next week,oh boy!out at last!
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"No bearing spacers required"
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On 4/20/2001 PCB
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Is that a summary of their quality? No bearing spacers required, because they're slow and will break quickly, regardless? What brand of lube do those bearings come with, Snake Oil?
To the impressionable or young skaters out there,
There are no such things as bearings that don't require spacers. If they fit in a wheel and are meant to spin on a truck axle, they require spacers in order to keep the inner ring of the bearings parrallel to one another. You can get by without bearing spacers, but then your bearings won't last very long.
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GreaseBall Bearings Abec 3
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On 4/20/2001 Rich
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FAST... SMOOTH...NO NOISE... NO BEARING SPACERS REQUIRED......BEAUTIFUL and LONG LASTING ive had them for over 9 months and still Awesome. Ride with Pride Sector 9
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shorty's black panther bearings
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On 4/18/2001
brian
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these bearings are pretty good. First had a pair of abec 5 speed metal bearings and these i find faster and stronger i would concider buying these bearing. the performance is great and they are very strong.
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my foot
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On 4/16/2001
footbgood
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all u need to go fast is a good push with ur own leg that does not cost 120$ so suck on that one powell
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Powell Ceramics
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On 4/16/2001
Alan Sidlo
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Have been using these bearings on many boards in my quiver. I think I like the ceramics a lot but have been finding that under certain conditions the added performance could be disadvantageous. For freestyle/streetstyle riding one may want to roll slow to setup for the stunt and in slaloming some may find they have to scrub out more speed than one would otherwise need to with bearings that aren't as fast.
I don't pay as much but cost is inconsequential.
In the past I have paid full price for them and would if I had to some time in the future.
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nineballs
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On 4/16/2001 Andy
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I have some 76mm 9-balls, and I tried to put 8mm spacers in but they seemed to be about 1mm too big. They are probably some weird size like 7mm or even an off size.
Sorry I don't know for sure.
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FKD ABEC 3 bearings
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On 4/16/2001 Sandragon
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I just replaced the FKD ABEC 3, double shield bearings on the back truck of my longboard. They were making nasty grinding noises, especially when making sharp turns. I thought these bearings were good, but they haven't lasted nearly as long as Bones Swiss.
Admittedly these bearings have a hard life. I'm heavy, the board is long, and Seismic trucks permit sharp turns that put strong side loads on the bearings.
Annular bearings just aren't made for this; when will someone come out with tapered roller bearings for skateboards?
Anyway, I replaced the FKD bearings with Code 3, also double shielded, $10 for 16 from Big 5. We'll see how long they last. They seem to roll well but I've only used the board once after installing the bearings. They may be a deal, may not be.
--Larry
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Bearing Spacers
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On 4/16/2001 Sandragon
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I've noticed the following benefits from installing bearing spacers:
1. They seal the inside of the wheel so less dirt and water get into the bearings.
2. They enable tight mounting of the wheels so the wheel doesn't vibrate and move around on the axle.
3. They help keep the bearings in their proper alignment, perpendicular to the axle, thereby reducing wear. Ideally, anyway. A skateboard bearing leads a very tough life.
4. They make the skateboard quieter because the wheels are held tightly on the truck. I don't like waking up the neighborhood when I hit rough pavement early in the morning.
--Larry
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Powell Ceramics
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On 4/13/2001 GBJ
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Just popped in a set of ceramics, last weekend at The Gathering. While I have a hard time telling one basically-sufficient bearing from the next, when they're under my feet; preliminary time tests indicate these new Powell ceramics might actually be faster than "just sufficient". I'm not yet sure whether they would've been worth the $120, had I been asked to pay for them.
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Sonic Gel
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On 4/13/2001
Phil
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Hizzout, i have tryed the gel myself and it was a very thick gel, no wheres near as fast as speed cream or triflow, the viscosity was very thick syrup-like. well hoped that help. Phil
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Sonic Super Gel
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On 4/13/2001
Hizzout
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I checked the archives for information on this product, but didn't find much. Does anyone use it? And what are the pros and cons of Sonic Super Gel compaired to more traditional bearing lubrication methods?
Always looking for that extra edge....
Hizzout
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sector 9 nineball
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On 4/12/2001
brandon
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what spacers do the use
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fricken fast
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On 4/11/2001 roger
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Red Dragon,
Swiss Bones and China Bones are good bearings with costs no where near $150. You must be talking about ceramics, or did Powell release a new bearing? Not enough detail in your post my friend.
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bones bearings
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On 4/11/2001
Red Dragon
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bones bearings ore awesome.They have come up with a new formula that makes them go fricken fast !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ther e quite expensive but there worth it im telling you if you want good bearings bones are for you.Bones bearings are about $120.00.
By bones
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Oops
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On 4/11/2001 Herbn
wrote in from
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I was thinking of the Herbn model aluminators with the groove for the little wire snapring that holds the bearing in place:)maybe i was considering hard shortboard wheels with tight fit on the bearings.Usually you can't lock down the axle nut entirely,the nylok still needs to be functional.
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Spacers
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On 4/11/2001 Adam
wrote in from
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I don't think spacers distribute side forces across both bearings. Recall that bearings are only held in place from one side. As you turn, your inside wheel's outer bearing is keeping the wheel from peeling off the axle, but the inner bearing has no wheel to hold on to, laterally speaking!
Rather, I think that spacers do two useful jobs: 1) They keep the bearings perfectly parallel, 2) They provide a solid structure to tighten down axle nuts which makes it less likely they will loosen up, and removes the process of deciding exactly how tight "tight enough" is for each axle nut.
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Spacers
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On 4/11/2001 Herbn
wrote in from
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impacts against the outer lip of a wheel are taken entirely by the inner bearing because the outside bearing floats(without a spacer)the force of turning even,same deal.Side forces on a bearing cause drag,just like over tightening an axle nut,you KNOW that slows you up. A spacer distributes side forces over both bearings reducing drag while cornering.Wear and tear is reduced,everything lasts longer,and works better.The spacer needs to be the right size.
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bearing spacers
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On 4/11/2001 eric
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do bearing spacers really make a difference?
thanx
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Black Panther
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On 4/9/2001 Charlie Young
wrote in from
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Extra silent!!Rumors of them breaking too easily.But I have not seen nothing yet!!
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Yak Abec-5 Bearings
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On 4/7/2001
Aaron
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Some of the best bearing ive come across for longboarding, willing to sell them to.
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