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Pleasure Tools are a pleasure to deal with!
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On 10/31/2005
Wesley Tucker
wrote in from
United States
(64.12.nnn.nnn)
WOW!
I ordered some Pleasure Tools late Friday night off the website. Saturday afternoon about 1:00 I got an e-mail confirmation of my order. Well, the order was WRONG. It was all my fault. For some strange reason I had clicked on the "individual bearing" box instead of the "full tube of 8" selection.
So, I immediately called Ed and left a message on his machine and sent an e-mail explaining that the order was WRONG! WRONG! WRONG! and to please STOP! STOP! STOP! About 2:00 my time I got an e-mail from Ed saying he caught the mistake, adjusted the billing to my credit card and would still get the order shipped SATURDAY.
Today, my bearings showed up! Friday order, Saturday SNAFU and bearings in my mailbox on Monday. From Vancouver, Washington to the coast of South Carolina in less than two days. That's 3,000 miles or more.
No matter how you slice it, that's just plain impressive. Oh, the U.S. Post Office express postage price? $3.85.
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Old abec 1
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On 10/26/2005 the ster
wrote in from
Canada
(64.228.nnn.nnn)
about 3 years ago my friend got a new deck. i diddnt know anyting about bearings back then. However on a slightly downhill street i could ride his board with only one push and go down the entire street. I though his deck was amazing. The only bad part was my friend is careless so for 2 years he stoped riding and left his skateboard outside. Through rain, snow, potato bugs and maybe squirrels pissing on it, his deck finally collapsed so he gave it to me. Now that i have some knowledge of bearings i found that the bearings he had were a abec 1. i was surprised and funny enough those bearings work better than my bones and lucky 5's.
Think about it guys, bearings thats been through rain for 2 years and still work great are u gunna spend a lot of money on brand name bearings>?
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Con's about Ron's?
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On 10/21/2005 J-Berg
wrote in from
United States
(163.176.nnn.nnn)
Cknuck - I'm curious what "con's" you've heard about Ron's?
I've never heard any problems specific to Ron's before.
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Pleasure Tools
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On 10/19/2005
Cknuck/Claude Regnier
wrote in from
Canada
(209.226.nnn.nnn)
I can say that Pleasure tools are a really good and fast bearing. I've been on them for 4 years. Yes some of the sets sitting in some of my Slalom wheels and set-ups are 4 years old.
I know Ousts are good. I've tested and liked them. Sice trying the Swiss bearings in the mid 80's i haven't tried them again. I've heard Pro's and Cons about Ron's bearings.
Bottom line. How many bearing factories are there? How little is the significance of the bearing really come down to in Slalom racing. I know you don't want a crappy bearing. In a typical TS, Hybrid it really shouldn't matter much. In a downhill or maybe even a Super G or long GS. I can tell you that some of my times on certain course don't reflect a slower bearing at all. If they had a steering system built in for accuracy it would help.
PT ceramics and non- Ceramics are just fine. Kenny rode PT's to the World Championships in 2003 unless he switched prior. A lot of guys are ridding the all kinds and see very little difference.
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@ Chris
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On 10/19/2005
Adam
wrote in from
(72.226.nnn.nnn)
Thanks man, that answers everything!
but does this only happen with the turner wheels? or does it also happen with the 3dm?
excuse me if i missed something in the article, i read it yesterday and i am forgetful....
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Adam's Creaky Wheels
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On 10/15/2005
Chris P
wrote in from
United States
(24.10.nnn.nnn)
I believe your answer may lie here:
http://www_slalomskateboarder_com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=1771
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sin system ceramics
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On 10/13/2005
Fitz
wrote in from
Australia
(203.201.nnn.nnn)
I recently got a set of sin system ceramics to give em a go. Excellent bearings. I found out Sin use grease in their bearings which I was quite sceptical about because they tend to be sluggish for speed, but changed my tune the more I used em cause they just get quicker and quicker everytime I use em. The only downside I find is all the sleeves and spacers required to run em on 8mm axles. What surprised me more was even after u finally set em up, If you don't get the right tension on the wheel nut it can result in a sketchy ride. Too tite and the bearings don't roll enough. The sleeve and spacers are aluminium which can crush and deform under pressure clamping up the bearing (I prefer steel). Too loose and everything is all shakey because of low tolerance fitment resulting in a rough ride on any surface.
Bottom line is, the actual bearing is very good, quality balls (Si3 N4 or Silicone Nitride, the higher grade ceramic), low maintainence, and affordable. I'm looking forward to trying them at real speed (80km/h+) as soon as I setup some trucks with 10mm axles and use the tophats for monopoly. :)
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ceramics
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On 10/13/2005 dan@csu
wrote in from
United States
(216.17.nnn.nnn)
bones and rons are better than pleasure tools mostly because of the sealing system and the companys quality control. i've never been on rons, but they're cheaper than bones. BUT bones have been around forever and if the quality of their reds and swiss say anything, i'd bet that their ceramics are the best on the market. too bad the cheapest you can find them is like 85 bucks.
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better ceramics
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On 10/13/2005
Rus
wrote in from
United States
(64.12.nnn.nnn)
i've been reading the better ceramic bearing questions. i'm wondering which company makes the best ceramics, pleasure tool, bones, Rons? are they're any other better ones?
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Single Biltin For Joe I
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On 10/12/2005
North Carolina Longboarder- Downhillbillies
wrote in from
United States
(166.82.nnn.nnn)
Joe, check your PM on the other site. I got your hook up on the single Biltin.
Marion Karr
www.downhillbillies.org
"Fueling The Stoke One Hillbilly At a Time!"
24 DAYS REMAINING UNTIL THE TANKER TRUCK OF DHB STOKE FUEL SPEWS FORTH!
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spacers for 10mm axles
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On 10/9/2005 simon
wrote in from
Sweden
(83.250.nnn.nnn)
whats the difference between shield and sealed bearings, and where can I get some spacers that will fit my 10mm axles.
are sinsystems and reflex bearings the only bearings that will fit those 10mm axles?
thanks
420
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Bearings
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On 10/8/2005 need2gofaster
wrote in from
United States
(206.135.nnn.nnn)
Rocket bearings!
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Oust!
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On 10/8/2005 Brown Bomber!
wrote in from
United States
(205.188.nnn.nnn)
Congrats to Jason Mitchell for winning the Overall at the World Championships for the SECOND YEAR IN A ROW! He was riding OUST! Oi! When it comes down to hundredths of seconds.........Oust!
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@ Chaput
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On 10/6/2005
Adam
wrote in from
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the wheel may be the culpret.....i have only heard the noise in the front and they are old and chunked 80a turner avalons....
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Adam's Creek
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On 10/6/2005
Chris Chaput
wrote in from
United States
(66.116.nnn.nnn)
Have you tried the "creaky" bearings in other wheels? Sometimes it's the wheel(s) and not the bearings. If it is the bearings, try isolating it to one wheel, then swap in a "known good bearing" until you find the culprit. Disassemble that bearing and you tell us what the problem is. It would be guesswork at best to try and diagnose the problem from here.
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Best for Slalom
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On 10/5/2005
Adam
wrote in from
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its more of a strained noise than a dirty noise. these make a creaking noise during a turn...its sorta hard to describe it, i have heard some say that its from a broken race or something but i find it hard that i broke a race.
sometimes the noise is made by a slight slip in placement, i'll check it again.
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Best for Slalom?
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On 10/5/2005
Adam
wrote in from
United States
(198.144.nnn.nnn)
Adam, Are you using properly sized bearing spacers? Are you riding in high dust/dirt areas? Are the cores of your wheels dirty prior to installing the new bearings?
No bearing of any quality should get noisy after one week. Perhaps a sealed (not shielded) bearing would be better for your area.
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Best for Slalom?
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On 10/5/2005 Adam Daniels
wrote in from
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Hey guys. Recently i swapped out my dead mini-logo bearings in my slalom board for some brand new redz right before the Farm Finale. They spun forever after giving them a flick with a finger (i love perfect spacers) but now i notice that about after a week of riding these bearings creek just like my mini-logos did. i believe this is because if the enormous side loads created during slalom. so what i am asking is what bearing is best for slalom? or what bearings best holds up to side loads?
to answer this question i would greatly appreciate an e-mail since i don't check this section often.
thanks
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How big are your _____
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On 10/5/2005 EBasil
wrote in from
United States
(63.206.nnn.nnn)
Well, there's one certain difference between Ron's custom NMB ceramics and the SinSystems: the SinSystems use 9 teeny balls and top-hat adaptors to shim them down from a 10mm-ish ID to something around 8mm for your regular axles, whereas Ron's are standard 608's. The Sineramics I have are also Greased bearings, not oiled.
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damn it
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On 10/5/2005 dan@csu
wrote in from
United States
(216.17.nnn.nnn)
well i'm sick of this, now pleasure tools has upgraded to silicon nitride too. there can't be much difference between PT/rons/sin systems can there?
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single biltin?
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On 10/5/2005
Joe I
wrote in from
United States
(63.87.nnn.nnn)
OK,
So I got a bitling stuck on my Splitfire and had to mangle it to get it free. Where can I buy a single (or 9) abec11 abec 7 biltins?
Thanks in advance,
Joe
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Redundant?
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On 10/5/2005 EBasil
wrote in from
United States
(63.206.nnn.nnn)
Don, are the ends of your Randal hangers really crooked? Usually, the extended inner races on the Biltins are enough to overcome really poorly cast/finished hanger ends, but it sounds like you may have a really rough set. I have one set of trucks that I took a file to, so I didn't have to use a speedring on the inner side.
Unless you've got a really weird axle nut, the "outer" speedring should be totally unecessary, though.
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Spacers with Biltins...
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On 10/5/2005
Don J
wrote in from
United States
(64.115.nnn.nnn)
I have Biltin abec 5, and 7's. When I use 2 tiny speed washers, my Flywheels spin alot more freely, than without. I do use 2 spacers per wheel with my Biltins. I have Randal DH trucks. Some poeple say "get rid of those speed washers", but they improve the "wheel spin" test. Dont know why this is.
Don J
www.geocities.com/djackson9504
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it's come to this
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On 10/4/2005 dan@csu
wrote in from
United States
(129.82.nnn.nnn)
1. sin systems VS rons rockets (ceramics)
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Bones Ceramics
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On 10/4/2005
Chris
wrote in from
United States
(216.243.nnn.nnn)
Sin Systems also uses silicon nitride balls. Some bearings use the aluminum oxide balls because they are a lot cheaper (0.287 / cubic inch for high aluminum oxide vs. up to $2.50/cubic inch for the silicon nitride).
The difference is that the Sinners are like $40.00 and the Powells are like $1,000,000 or something.
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