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'Slider'
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On 4/4/2003 Gaz
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Suggestions for a beginners slide complete board please.
I am quite heavy, will be going only medium speeds(to start with)and all types of road surface....if that helps.
Thanks
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overstock.com alert
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On 4/2/2003 Joe
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Yesterday I received the complete I ordered from overstock.com, a Venom (?) 47 inches with baku trucks and no name wheels and bearings (spacers too). I bought this board just for the trucks, it's $73 shipped where bakus alone are almost 60, figuring that in the worse case I could have sold it for just about the same.
The bakus look like they are extremely well built, the board is a decent 9 ply with deep concave ans flex is almost none under my 150lbs. Wheels look cheap and I promptly replaced them with 75a Flashbacks.
I was having wheel bite and having nothing else handy I made riser pads out of my new $2 wal mart flip flops, they worked just fine, maybe adding a little more rebound, I'll check that on my other boards.
Even with my sore knee I had to take this board for a ride.
Took it to a freshly paved parking lot and ended up pumping carving for an hour! This trucks/board/wheels combo is a blast and a carving monster! At first the concave board felt a little wacky, never tried concave before, then I started to like the lowered position. The first thing I noticed about the trucks was their extreme turniness, these things turn very tight and I was able to run very small circles, certainly smaller than what I could do on Randall IIs. Once tightened the trucks retained the same turning capability but with added snap out of deep carves. Bakus felt less stable than Riis, they're also narrower, but for moderate speed carving and pumping I like them better. the only thing I didn't like about them is the extended hole pattern, but that's not going to stop me from redrilling the soulcarver and give them a shot on that board.
if you're looking to try bakus or you want to go cheap for your first longboard this might be a good idea.
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flexboardz
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On 4/1/2003 hc
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pierre,
'swing linkage' meaing basically what bmw and flexboards have. tilting wheels, steering and tilting are linked mechanically, (aka more tilt, more turning)
(here is an example of tilting but no steering)
http://www.moebius.es/ccalleja/index.htm
i am sure you visited maxmatic.com
and aware of many different categories of leaning vehicle,
but i have yet to see a clear pic of a vehicle with the 'swing linkage' design. Feel free to update me.
ps. i can't really say i agree your use of the term 'structurally vs mechanically', but i see your point.
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Bozi/ Tracker/ Seismic/ Roe etc
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On 4/1/2003
kaspian
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K-LEE, thanks bro -- that is just what I was hoping to hear.
Cheesh, I must have been away from this place too long. A Seismic in the **rear** -- that's the opposite of what everybody was doing the last time I checked. I've got a Roe set up with (front) a Seismic/yellow/flat, and (rear) an RTX/dewedged. Maybe I should try switching them.
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Flexboardz
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On 3/31/2003 patrick pierron
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HC,
If you call "swing linkage" tiltable wheels, I don't think it's "owned" by anyone...it was already sidecar with tiltable wheels during WWII, Mercedes made also such a proto lately and there dozens of website talking about small cars with tiltable wheels.
But again, the main difference of http://www.flexboardz.com is that we do it trough structure deformation not mechanics.
Basically, the same improvement that between inline roller and quad roller
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the landy complete
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On 3/31/2003
joseph
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i would use flywheels instead of the extremes. way faster and slide better to stop.
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Landyachtz DHrace w/randal180 and 82mm Xtreme aluminum hub wheels
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On 3/31/2003
abe
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I just wanted to know what people think of this set-up and if they had any sugestions or any thang like that. Word.
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flexboardz
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On 3/31/2003 hc
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pierre, thx for the info, the more the better,
btw, who owns the 'swing linkage' patent?
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flexboardz
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On 3/31/2003
patrick pierron
wrote in from
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HC,
First of all, as you said the "swing linkage" is not own by BMW(it's older). The bmw patent present a way to incorporate it into a truck.
The main drawback of the swing linkage is that it create important strength (see the huge triangular truck base).
Our difference, (see presentation), is that we incorporate it into a structure. So the strengths are balanced between front and aft.
Result: our board is at least 3 times lighter, cheaper and reliable (less moving parts)
But the big difference is that it feels and react to the front/aft balance (like a sonw or a surf)
Moreover, our design is patented and there is no infringement with BMW.(And there is a return to center)
Sorry for being so technical...we will add info on the site so it will be more clear
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Bozi wedge nose pin truck choice
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On 3/31/2003
K-LEE
wrote in from
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kaspian,
You hit the nail straight on the head, my friend. I was running my wedgepin with a Deadbolt (soft Stim/Tracker) up front and a Seismic in back (silver springs). By far, this was a much more pumpable and maneuverable setup than the dual Seismics. The Seismic may turn sharper up front, but it doesn't lean as deep. I've got my cut down PinBomber with a 139mm Tracker B2 (longer kinpin/double soft Stims) up front and a 135mm Seismic (yellow) in back. This thing screams through cones! I like the Tracker geometry up front soooooo much that I'm planning on setting up my longer stock wedgepin with a Tracker Sixtrack (longer kingpin/dual Stim job) up front and a 9" Seismic with the softest springs I can find in the rear. This is the way to GO!!! I tried Deadbolts front and back, but you really benefit from having the Seismic in back you can still turn and pump better. I think that having the Seismic mounted up front gives you all steer and no lean and feels like a sports car, which is pretty cool, but if you're going for a more surfy pumping feel, go with the Sixtrack up front. I tried Randals, too, but didn't like the low roll center feel with that deck.
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Rolls Rolls Sportster
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On 3/31/2003 hugh r
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Big improvement over the original... fenders reshaped to take a 180mm hanger and a 101mm wheel... new 69a 101mm centerset hub wheel is very smooth on the rough pavement... pics for now, full review coming soon... HR
New Rolls Rolls
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Bozi pin
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On 3/31/2003
kaspian
wrote in from
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Thanks, Jeff.
Just to pursue this further ... I wonder if anyone has tried the Bozi pintail with a more conventional front truck, like a Tracker Dart or, say, an oldschool Sixtrack? (I have a set of these around the house that I was planning to try on a Mummy.) It would seem that with this mounting geometry, you wouldn't need a Randal. There is a mention of this kind of setup on the Bozi website, but I haven't been able to find any discussion here on the topic.
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custom painted pintail
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On 3/30/2003
stevep
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i have to share - when i ordered my pintail (about 20 minutes after i saw it on the web), jeff wasn't taking orders yet - i asked him what he thought he was gonna charge for the deck, paypal'd him the money and told him to send me the first one. #1 arrived unfinished with a bozi sticker on the bottom via UR13 express from a DC outlaw race (i had a 7 hour tattoo appointment that day and couldn't go down to pick it up)...
so when winter came and snowboard season started, i could actually give up my pintail long enough to finally get it painted - 1969 Camaro Black with the SS silver pinstripes...on the left
i think i am afraid to hurt it...it has a nicer paintjob than my 1977 firebird!
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bozi B2...
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On 3/30/2003
stevep
wrote in from
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i ride that same rig - lots of fun. slap some big flywheels on there and you got a go-devil for the scary hills. the bomber2 is long and stiff enough to get nutty on the fast bits & the concave will speed up your edge to edge transitions on carving. i think i am gonna have to rig mine up with K-Lee's suggestion of the seismics/flashbacks though....mmmm...snappy. best part of bozi boards - they beg for experimentation.
cheers!
steve
omg - jeff just sent me a pic of my hognose that got painted over the winter - '69 camaro black and silver....oh my....
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Bozi Bomber
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On 3/30/2003 Brad
wrote in from
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Hello,
I'm thinking about ordering the bozi bomber 2 with randal 2's and flash backs. I want to do everything on this board. From street-surfing, carving, sliding to bombing hills. Would this board suit me for these kinds of riding?
Thanks
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>>>>>oops
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On 3/30/2003 Bozi
wrote in from
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"Couldnt pay me", proof read, I know I know
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Bozi Pin
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On 3/30/2003
Bozi
wrote in from
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Your 100 % correct. The Wedgenosed pintails big fun for carving, pumping,pushing (becuase it sits sooo low),& cones , etc.
But you would be in shakey territory to go for speed on it. Never had the wobbles, but its DAMN twitchy up near higher 20's.
Its for turning, thats what it does very well, & with style.
God I wish I was 17 agian, I remember bombing hils on my Bonzi alum board, Bennetts pros,power paws (I think), you could pay me to hit that hill agian on that board, funny how things change.
Have fun, Jeff
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Bozi/Seismic
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On 3/30/2003
kaspian
wrote in from
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I still have trouble imagining this. To me, Seismic trucks have always felt dangerously wiggly at speed, especially with light (yellow) springs. If you mount these trucks on the Bozi pintail, whose nose geometry amplifies the turning response, aren't you getting into Death Wobble territory?
Maybe not. My insane 17-year-old son rides an Indiana board with a Seismic 135 (yellow springs) up front and a Randal 150 (soft Stimulators) in back, at wild speeds in all road conditions. But he is insane and 17. Is this sensible for ordinary mortals?
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flexboardz
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On 3/30/2003
hc
wrote in from
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pierre,
i read the site again, but i don't see where you compare your design to the bmw streetcarver.
(btw, your links to 'details' is hard to see)
from what i can see, your board does use similar swing linkage design as the beemer, (no return to center, i presume?)
but i also wonder whether the bmw streetcarver was the first 'vehicle' to utilize the 'swing linkage' design.
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Gravity mini-carve 42"
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On 3/30/2003
Nicky
wrote in from
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The Gravity 42" mini carve is in my opinion THE BEST beginner board as it allows you to learn to carve and pump speed on the flat without feeling too unsteady. It is really responsive and for a flexible board allows you to get up to speeds of about 30mph down hills without too much board wobble.
I have got mine set up with Gravity Super Gs 70mm 78a and Tracker B2 Trucks with angled risers front and back.
Check my site www.mustud.com
Cheers
Nicky
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Bozi Wedgenose Pintail
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On 3/29/2003 Nyah
wrote in from
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I started longboarding three months ago, when I got a Bozi Wedgenose Pintail with Seismic 157's and Flashbacks. I've stepped on several other boards, but my Bozi pintail has the best stability and responsiveness for someone just starting out like myself. The radical angle of the front mounting area results in a lowered and stabilized feel. I put yellow springs in my front Seismic, with a red one in rear. The Flashbacks were fast and grippy, but I found them a bit too wide for the deck. Just recently I have switched them out for some Gravity Super G 73mm 78a wheels. These narrower hubbed wheels give a more positive edge feeling and they roll farther with one push. I would highly recommend the Bozi Wedgenose as an excellennt deck especially for beginners.
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Flexboardz
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On 3/29/2003
patrickpierron
wrote in from
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Thanks for you first comments on the flexboardz and its coolness.
The website flexboardz.com has been upgraded lately and you will find more explanations on the concept and its differences compared to mechanical board (like the street carver which have also tiltables wheels).
Concerning the french manufacturing capabilities,....I must admit that you are not totally wrong!!!
However, the Flexboardz project is not so french because I started it few years ago when I was living in SF(which is not totally american), designed it on the basque Coast (which is not totally french) and sadly, it will probably be produced in south east asia like almost all others boards....I only hope that after it will be appreciated worldwide....
Have a nice riding day...
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Favorite all around complete so far
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On 3/28/2003
K-LEE
wrote in from
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My quiver is hovering around 6 right now, but I wanted to focus on one that's quickly becoming a favorite:
Bozi 9 ply bomber, Seismic 157 w/red springs, Flashbacks 78a front 75a rear, PT 7 seals.
The width of the Flashbacks on the 9" Seismics matches up with the 10" Bomber perfectly, and the deep concave gives the necessary leverage to compress the red springs fully. Switching between the wheelbase options does more to increase flex than decrease turning ability, these Seismics TURN! I still like my other Bomber set up with Randals and Flywheels for high speed bombs, but for all around cruising and deep-deep gluey carving, the Seismic/Flashback combo on the Bomber is the way to go! I'm still playing with the wedgenose pintail setup, more to come on that as it develops....
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"Longer" Longboards
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On 3/27/2003 Eric
wrote in from
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I am thinking about adding another board to my quiver. I am considering a "longer" longboard 50"+. I would like some advice about what style of deck shapes/size/construction and type/size of trucks and wheels lend themselves to certain riding styles. Are these boards basically for cruising? I have heard that some people use these boards as cross training for surfing. Any and all info is appreciated. Thanks.
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Ed Economy Longboard
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On 3/27/2003 John Gilmour
wrote in from
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First board I rode this season. The first board to get priority to be reassembled since Florida.....
My Ed Economy longboard with ABEC 11 84MM 78a Flywheels. I didn't even bother putting one of my slalom decks together.
Damn Ed that board is great. So good in fact that I decided to teach a longboard class at Crunch Fitness. Like they need another class.
http://www.crunch.com/classes/index.asp
I hope to attract female members from the belly dancing and Cardio strip tease classes. No kidding- I'll get some shots for the Ed Economy archives of them riding your deck, certainly the creme de la creme of Boston Coeds.
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