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Trucks for BDS longboard
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On 4/10/2003
atxjimatx
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It kinda depends.. I run mine with 166's but i am using the BDS Shogo Single conicals (85a). With Snaps (centerset and not very wide) I'd probably try either the indy 215's or tracker 184's (they turn plenty-- for me 200+ lbs-- esp with the white Hourglass bushings)... Alternately I might try Randals with the hangers flipped.... The lower the ride height I can get on this deck, the better it feels... Randals are kinda high...
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trucks for BDS longboard (Andrew)
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On 4/10/2003
Mark
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Andrew,
My 38" BDS is my main pool/park board. It took some experimentation to get it dialed in, but I'm happy now. Here are the truck combo's I've tried:
* Tracker Aggro/B2 bases. I've run this on all my (shorter) boards, so it's what I'm used to. This is what's currently on my BDS, and it works really well. Front truck is wedged (narrow-end towards nose), and uses med/orange Tracker SuperBall bushings top/bottom. Rear truck uses a 1/4" Dooks flat riser, and hard/green SuperBall bushing on top, and a hard/blue Stimulator bushing on the bottom. I experimented with a wedge on the rear truck, but it was too sketchy for me.
* Tracker 184mm Darts. These were the first trucks I tried on the BDS, and I played around a LOT with wedges, bushings, etc. I could NOT get them to turn as well as the Aggro's, so they're sitting on my workbench now. I used the same bushings/wedges as above, but they always felt a little "slow."
I found that larger wheels REALLY complement the BDS 38" deck. I was running 60-62mm wheels on the BDS, and it felt "OK." When I bumped up to the 66mm Gravity Street G's, it came alive. Those wheels also allowed me to use a narrower truck (the Aggro's), and have the wheels not extend beyond the board's rails.
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Trucks for BDS Longboard
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On 4/10/2003
Andrew
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Forgive me if this has already been covered, but I was curious what trucks folks here were using for the BDS Longboard. I just picked one up from BST forum and at 10.5 " wide, it will be the wideset board I currently have.
My criteria is, beyond a loose, responsive truck, is that I do not want the wheels to stick out to over the edge of the deck.
I was thinking of going with either Z-Roller trucks (8.5) or the Randal/Indy combo. I have seen some setup with Indy 166s - although would that be too narrow for the back? I plan to use Gravity Snaps. also, which riser wedge config is the best for this board?
Curious to know what others are riding.
Andrew
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PP Super-G
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On 4/9/2003 Joe Loenhardt
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may be now ...
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New Carveboard / Stik Wheels
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On 4/8/2003
Stevie
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I saw a picture of those new Carveboard/Stik wheels. If I'm not mistaken, they're pre-coned, as well as being offset to the outside! The wheel seems to have a wider diameter on the inside edge than the outside, with the bearing set outboard of center. Very strange. Any body ride em and have some insight to add?
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spelling corrections
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On 4/8/2003 Abe
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I ment to say put it all together, northampton mass and weigh 2/3 pounds, my bad
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Landyachtz DHrace w/randal180 and 82mm Xtreme aluminum hub wheels
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On 4/8/2003 Abe
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This set up is damn groovey. I got it all ut together and went out and skated a little even though the roads were still damp from the snow (yea northampot mass got snow in april, it blows) the wheels are super grippy because of the rubber and they carry momentum for a long time (they wiegh about 2/3 punds each) these wheels with the landyachtz dhrace and the randal 180's is ass nice setup, I dig it.
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Exkates
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On 4/8/2003 Joe
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Stevie, that was very thourough! I was thinking about the black bushings too. one thing I forgot to ask, do you ride the 101 or the 201? bakus should be the same as the 101, so I don't know if I should stick with that size or go wider. thanks again
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carveboard
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On 4/8/2003 erik
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I recently checked out the carveboard web site, www.carveboard.com and they have a new board. The trucks look the same as the carveboard but the wheels are regular polyurethane type, instead of the larger ones used on the carveboard. Anyone ride one of these yet?
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Rolls rolls wheels
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On 4/8/2003 hugh r
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Hey Leo!
Not sure what the wheels are... they are 101mm on a center set hub... very similar to another big wheel out there, but in 69a... very sticky and moves well on the very rough rough roads I tested them on... HR
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Exkates
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On 4/8/2003
Stevie
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Joe - When you order your Exkates, get them with the correct bushings for your riding. You can choose when you order. I ordered my first pair directly from Exkate and they suggested the red (hard) bushings since I weigh 220. They turned out to be way too stiff for me. I could see using them for high speed downhill though. I went back and bought the black (softest) bushings which are perfect for me, very loose and carvy. It turns out that the blue (medium) are also OK for me on a shorter wheelbase. At this point I wouldn't even consider green (hardest) for anything. Why get a super turny truck and then shut it down? Anyway, the best thing would be for you to try some and see what works for you. I've heard people complain that they were too loose for them until they got the red bushings. Whatever works. If you can't try any first, then I suggest you start off with the black bushings and go stiffer later if it turns out they're too loose. I suspect they won't be. That way you'll find out right away what the trucks are all about. My second option for you would be to start with blue as a compromise. My best suggestion for you is to start with black, since you've already ridden the Bakus and know what turny is all about. As good as Bakus are, Exkates are better. That big bushing works great. Besides, I have no problem with switching it out, it's no big deal. Just have a rag on hand because they're greased inside.
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bakus/exkates
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On 4/7/2003 Joe
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Stevie
I actually like that graphic better than the yellow/blue stripes I got on mine.
anyways now you got me interested in those exkates, I looked around and they fetch around 30/35 for a pair plus shipping, either size, not bad.
the only things that leave me wondering are the replacement bushings, 12 buck for a pair!
and the fact that you cannot adjust the tension, which means a lot to me. any advice ?
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Venom 40" - not really so scary
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On 4/6/2003
Stevie
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OK, here it is, described by my 2-year-old as "scary, scary, VERY scary":
I know, big let down there, but for a 2-year-old ...
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Loaded
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On 4/6/2003
Dave H.
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John,
From what I understand, Loaded and the people at Palermo can actually custom-size their various "color label" boards. 185 may be pushing the weight limits of their Black label Superflex 42" board, but talk to Palermo and find out the best size for your weight and your purposes. My Loaded Superflex is very "live" and has a very gentle, almost imperceptible concave that's very easy on your feet, even, if, like me, you like flat boards. It's also pretty light weight, even with the big Flashbacks. I can also tell you that the Loaded board is even more "pumpable" than my Pumpkin board.
Hope this is helpful. Dave H.
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Dave H's Loaded set up
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On 4/6/2003 John
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Dave and to any other Loaded owners out there, I'm interested in hearing more about your deck selection. I'm looking for a very pumpable deck setup. I've heard alot about "midsize" pumpers(38") being a nice blend of flexibility and stability. My weight is 185# and I'm 6'.I was considering a Loaded maroon label(38") vs. a Fibreflex pintail 38" deck. Your larger Black label Loaded(42")now interests me also as a possible contender.Can you or any other Loaded owners out there who have also tried a 38" Fibreflex pintail please help me with my decision among these 3 decks and favorable setups for "pumpability".Thanks!
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Loaded Superflex
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On 4/6/2003
Dave H.
wrote in from
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O.K. anyone around who is looking for an awesomely pumpable American board that flexes like a Cosmic One, but has real longboard dimensions, try this combination. A "superflex" Loaded Black label 42" longboard with 92mm 72a Flashbacks and Randalls. If you are about 170 pounds or below, this is an amazing setup. Loaded Boards doesn't advertise the "superflex" length but you can get one from Palermolongboards.com They are supernice and very fast with email questions. I just got back from snowboarding to find my board at my door. It has a real "live" snowboard feel. Will review it more extensively when Chicago weather stops sucking.
Dave H.
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Evil ... server? + Venom w/ Bakus + Exkates
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On 4/6/2003
southswell@cox.net
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Antti - Yeah, I don't get it. I gave my server permission to receive references from here so it *should* work.
Joe - I already spent my wad or I'd go back and get the one you got. I suspect it's a little flexier that the 40" I picked up, which is still a nice board. Mine came via Ebay from a skateboard distributor in Fountain Valley who was unloading them for unknown reasons. I like the Bakus a lot too, but they still don't have the sweet and hefty rebound of Exkates, although the geometry is EXACTLY the same. Exkates have a massive torsion bushing. If you look inside the Bakus, you'll see that the relatively complex bushing mechanism basically functions in compression only, with a much smaller bushing element than the Exkate. Bakus technically aren't really torsion trucks since as far as I can tell they don't twist the bushing. I could be wrong and maybe I misunderstood what I was looking at. I don't mean to disparage them, I do like them a lot. I just like Exkates better ;).
BTW, Exkates are also an ideal match for Flashbacks. The performance of those two together is amazing.
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Flexbaordz
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On 4/5/2003
patrick pierron
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HC,
Your remark is fair, the actual Flexboardz protos look still a bit mechanic, but work according to a different logic!! Mechanic vs "flexible structure deformation"
To make it more clear, we have added pics at (http://www.flexboardz.com/anglais/historic.htm) where you can see a totally "structural" and flexible proto
Don't laugh too much!! There are old prototypes!! But the first one is only made with 3 pieces of fiberglass (and foam to fill up) and do +- the job!!
In the future, Flexboardz will probably be mix of the two and built with snowboard technology...
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evil
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On 4/5/2003 Antti S. Brax
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Stevie, nah: "You don't have permission to access /i-1.jpg on this server. Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request."
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Venom
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On 4/4/2003 Joe
wrote in from
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Stevie
the more I ride that board the more I like it, in my opinion bakus are an optimum match for the flashbacks, I own other boards with randalls and the combination doesn't work quite as well. the super tight turning action of these trucks takes the maximum advantage of the flashbacks lips, you can almost feel them springing back from the deepest carves. I've never tried exkates, but from what I hear bakus are practically the same.
I also enjoy the venom as a sidewalk surfer, perfect for going up and down all the little ramps and driveways.
I wonder who is making making these boards and why they went out of business (I wouldn't explain them being on overstock otherwise)
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Rolls Rolls super
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On 4/4/2003
Leo
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Hugh what wheels are those in that deck.
leo
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oh well
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On 4/4/2003 Stevie
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It must be an evil graphic that ncdsa's servers reject out of principle.
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try that again
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On 4/4/2003 Stevie
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Here's the graphic that scared my 2 yr. old:
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Venom 40 inch complete
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On 4/4/2003
Stevie
wrote in from
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I got one of those Venom 40" boards off of eBay for $56. Got it for my kids and also to have Baku trucks but I think my 2 year old is scared of the graphic:
The wheels are cheap and a tad bit small for a longboard. Really though, they're OK, especially for kids - nice and soft with an outer radius. No competition for real longboard wheels like flashbacks (what is?).
Turns out the deck is a pretty nice street carver. It does make hot pumpy little tight turns as well as big carves. It's fairly stiff which for me makes it a good slider. The concave helps in that respect as well. The tail kick is too narrow for pool action but might be functional for some ditch/culvert fun, if the site is more down-the-line rather than off-the-lip oriented.
I like the action of the the Bakus a lot - super nice trucks! They still don't a) carve like Exkates or b) pump like Seismics (unfair comparison) but would wail on "ordinary" trucks for carving.
Overall a really nice board, just as it is, and super cheap.
I liked the looks of the 47" Venom at overstock.com even better. If I'd had a choice I'd have gotten that. Really nice rockered deck, looks like the new Hobies.
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