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stp ldp
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On 7/19/2006 derek
wrote in from
United States
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congrats james!
those are a couple monster days, back to back. 16.5 hours on the first day alone! i don't know if i could even stay awake that long, let alone ride a skateboard... ;)
nice work conquering some serious terrain, both out on the trail and in your head. i'm looking forward to hearing more about it.
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STP
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On 7/19/2006
peters
wrote in from
United States
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stryker, i'll post the 204-mile STP ride up on pavedwave soon, it was the most epic ride personally and its taking a few days for recovery!! pumped the Roe LDP everytime i could, and was jazzed that I didn't have to adjust or replace ANYthing over the entire 2 days.
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geezer, i really like the 97mm flywheels on the rolls and don't really use the stock 145mm wheels on that deck now. i prefer the stickiness for faster turns with the abec11 'thane.
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Rolls Rolls
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On 7/19/2006 Fatboy
wrote in from
United States
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Geez, what size are the wheels? Rollerblade style, yes? I have several pairs of Krypto made wheels I can send ya'
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Not really pumping, but...
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On 7/19/2006
Geezer-X
wrote in from
United States
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My Rolls Rolls showed up on the doorstep yesterday. I swapped a pile of assorted slalom stuff I'm not using this season for it.
It's got the huge roller-ski type wheels and RII 180s. I assembled it with some cut down Stimulators, and went to a local bike path. I was surprised that the "fenders" got in the way at first, but I adapted quickly. I push mongo naturally, so switching off mongo and regular makes for 2 equally fried legs.
It makes a very unique sound since it's a nearly inch-thick 3D composite structure and the wheels are so huge, and it carries speed like nothing you've ever ridden. The return part of the bike path is ever so gently downhill, and it would be possible to do the whole ride without a push.
I pumped it a little, but the contact patches of the wheels are tiny and it feels a bit sketchy.
I'm going to put some narrowed 180 hangers w/ 8mm axles and a try some big conventional wheels. I've got big flywheels and some of those Kryptonics 85mm things.
It's an interesting diversion from "skateboarding" being more like a pair of roller skis joined in tandem than a conventional skateboard, but it'll be something different to ride to work.
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STP Peter's 200 mile LDP ride
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On 7/18/2006
Stryker
wrote in from
United States
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JP, How did your Seattle to Portland ride go? 200 miles in two days. Wow what a maniac! Peters is the LDP King that's for sure.What Deck did you use? Give up the details man Come on...No one puts on the miles like you do. Rock on! :) John
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LBL LDP
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On 7/16/2006
Seth
wrote in from
United States
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I just bought one. When it gets here I'll write a review. It sure looks good.
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LongBoardLarry LDP deck reports
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On 7/14/2006 kel
wrote in from
United States
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Anybody been on the LBL LDP deck yet and have anything to say about it? In particular how you you like the camber and the extra length in the tail? Would be great to hear something about it! Thanks!
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nw ldp double-booked date
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On 7/14/2006 peters
wrote in from
United States
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"what a bummer that 2 of the only long distance/cross country skating events of the year are being held on the same day, and only a few hours drive apart-the MS skate in seattle and the portland push."
Yeah, the MS Skate date's been announced for months...
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avilas, trim or not
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On 7/14/2006
peters
wrote in from
United States
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With trimmed Avilas you may get very slight improvement in pump response/rebound in generating flatland speeds. But the trimming mod mostly helps when you're doing high speed turns, it reduces the nasty effect of the outer lip 'curling' up and making the wheels skitter, rather than smoothly sliding across the pavement. I don't trim Avilas on my LDP board, mainly because I'm running narrow hangars and I like the stability of the wider wheel patch.
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Avilas- to trim or not to trim for LDP?
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On 7/12/2006
Kris
wrote in from
United States
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I will be getting my trucks and wheels tomorrow. I'm wondering if folks recommend trimming Avilas for long distance pumping.
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pacific northwest ldp events
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On 7/12/2006
derek
wrote in from
United States
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what a bummer that 2 of the only long distance/cross country skating events of the year are being held on the same day, and only a few hours drive apart-the MS skate in seattle and the portland push.
hopefully next year we can do something to bring the portland and seattle crews together for a ride. it's a small enough niche in this sport as it is...
both events are being held on Sunday, August 27th. On august 26th, the day before the seattle ms skate, there are tentative plans to host a series of one-mile races in marymoor park, followed by a ride out to the redhook brewery. it would be great to see some of our portland buddies (heck- everybody) there...
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roe ldp and crossfire38"
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On 7/11/2006 peters
wrote in from
United States
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hey Ravn, the two boards you're looking at are practically identical in composition, mainly the shaping is different - the crossfire 3.8 has more of a traditional 'surf' shape-- its a lengthened, widened Roe Crossfire. For LDP, works great for those who usually stand farther toward the back of the deck, with their front foot behind the front truck, over the max cambered area, and has a wider back end for powering off the rear. I've set up and tested it for LDP, then switched to Holeys front and rear and shredded up one of our best GS slalom hills-- its a light and flexy carver as well! So I kinda see the Roe LDP for dedicated flatland pumping and the Crossfire38 for an all-in-one carver/pumper. They both rip! btw - Cool vid!
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The waiting is the hardest part...
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On 7/10/2006
Kris
wrote in from
United States
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I don't purchase new gear often. In fact, I don't purchase much of anything very often. So as I wait for the components to arrive, piece by piece, leading up to my complete LDP set-up, the anticipation is killing me.
Since I ordered my deck from Roe last week, I have broken two kingpins trying to make my current set-up do something it's not designed to do: LDP! I have, however, managed to develop a strong, sustainable pump on conventional trucks and a 48" 9-ply maple downhill deck. I am willing to bet that, much like wine grapes that are forced to struggle to develop their exquisite flavor, my LDP skills will be brought to fruition through my current adversity-training.
Great LDP video! That looks like a great trail. Nice multi-tasking there, as well! I've been wanting to do an LDP safari in the Netherlands, which looks similar. Maybe next summer...
On a side note, you can check out our Sacramento Longboarding online magazine and see our recent downhill event, BTC's 1st Annual Road Rash Rally. The pics aren't the best, but you'll get the idea. We are already talking about a flatland race, as well, as soon as we can find a bike trail that is open to roller sports:
http://sacramentolongboarding.blogspot.com
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Comparison-Roe LDP and Crossfire 3.8
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On 7/10/2006
Stryker
wrote in from
United States
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Ravn, Peters is the oly person I know of that has ridding both decks extensively. He will be the one to get feedback from. I believe that it all depends on personal prefence. They are both killer decks! L8er John
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flaeming
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On 7/10/2006 derek
wrote in from
United States
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ravn-
that's awesome! nice work.
the pavement and scenery look great there. i can't wait to check out that trail! i'm planning an early summer trip out there, probably around mid june. erin said she's interested in getting out there as well...
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Skating in Flaeming
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On 7/10/2006
Ravn
wrote in from
Germany
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Skating video from Flaeming -
Click here for link
Best regards, Ravn.
PS: Nobody's got LDP experience with the Roe PS Crossfire? (see somewhere below)
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........and stuff
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On 7/10/2006 munchh
wrote in from
United Kingdom
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What i was trying to get at was, If it works for you, go head, if not try somthing else?
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RII's and stuff
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On 7/10/2006
munchh
wrote in from
United Kingdom
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Marc,
i used 180's for a while, then got some 160 downhill's, using a 180 baseplate on the front and the downhill baseplate on the back, wedging and dewedging, swapping the front bushings for white kiro's, it can work, but you would be better off using 150's, i've never used siesmics and i must be the only one who cant get on with the 'CX'?
I'm now using Tracker RTX/RTS 106mm with 72a flashbacks, works for me, but i cant help thinking about cutting down my RII 180s to around about the same width, bit like splitfires?
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randals and seismics
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On 7/10/2006
tarin
wrote in from
Denmark
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i was riding randal 2 180's for a while, marc, and they were all right, but pumping with the cx's is just so much easier. search through the last 100 posts or so for conversation about pumping with seismics, there was some interesting stuff about a month ago on the topic.
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Nevermind
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On 7/9/2006
Marc
wrote in from
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Nevermind, I will prolly go with something more traditional like CX's or something.
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LDP trucks
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On 7/8/2006
Marc
wrote in from
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What do you all think of randal 2's or seismics for LDP?
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ldp board
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On 7/6/2006
tarin
wrote in from
Denmark
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ive just ordered a roe ldp board myself, and a wee birdie sent me old cx trucks gratis, pro bono! im having a great time riding them around and its so much easier to ride against the wind and up inclines now!
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LDP vs Crossfire
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On 7/6/2006
Ravn / Dominik
wrote in from
Germany
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Hey all,
Hey peters, thanks for the warm welcome. Maybe you can help me:
I have finally decided to get myself a Roe LDP now (oh, the decision was not so hard. I'm totally hooked).
A friend of mine is considering to also get a Roe deck for distance pumping, but he is hesitating as to whether he should get an LDP deck or one of those long Crossfires. Could you tell us where the main differences are? Do you have enough space for your front foot on a Crossfire, or will your toes hang? Have you used the crossfire or both for LDP? What's your impression?
Thanks in advance, Ravn
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distance ride through seattle
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On 7/4/2006
peters
wrote in from
United States
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Here's the tentative route for later in the day on the 5th. Trevor's taking more time in Chehalis to recoup but hopes to get through Tacoma tomorrow by noon.
http://www.wayfaring.com/maps/show/19719
He would likely hit the Interurban somewhere around Federal Way up to Burke through North Seattle from 3 or 4 p.m. on the 5th (Weds) until dark ---any local takers, drop in on the trail!
p.s. Kris, sent you some hardware info...
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'Who likes long bolts.....we like long bolts!'
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On 7/4/2006
Munchh
wrote in from
United Kingdom
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Hey LDP'ers,
long time....hope your all well?
I've found the best place over here for bolts is car factors, i'm asuming you get the same sort of thing over your side of the water, here they sell patent parts for cars, tools for mechanics and bolts for car mantainance, aswell as many other auto related stuff, the one i'm using is able to get me 'M5'(this is the thickness or thread size), countersunk allen key bolts, (the call them socket head) in steel or even stainless, from 40mm/ 1 1/2" anything upto 80mm/ 3 1/4" (or bigger) long, they are much cheaper as they sell them in singles, they also carry the 'nylock' nuts.
The hardware or D.I.Y. places only seem to have slot or cross head and are never the same quality as the auto trade use.
Since finding i'm wedging alot for slalom and LDP, i've been thinking of selling on e-bay, as there doesn't seem to be anyone skate related doing them long enough for the 1" of riser + deck + truck base plate we all seem to need???
I hope this helps.
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