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baseball
On 10/27/2004 james wrote in from United States  (158.136.nnn.nnn)

red sox!!!!

 
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slalom
On 10/27/2004 caddy wrote in from United States  (198.81.nnn.nnn)

Pocket Pistols!!

 
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Camber for Airin
On 10/27/2004 Pauliwog wrote in from United States  (64.5.nnn.nnn)

In terms of slalom riding, Camber is great if it's JUST RIGHT, if there's too much it works against you, if the flex is too floppy or especially if it's too stiff it works against you. The spendy slalom board makers can dial it in for you to be just right.Some times good old fashioned flat and stiff is very fast reacting, stable and controllable and it's the right choice for the course. As far as longboards, Pumpkin does a pretty good job with rider weight ratings in their cambered mid-size and longer decks but they're usually in kilograms. I don't know much about longboards but that's the scoop from this slalomer's experiences. Later-Paul

 
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Correction to my 10/23/04 Curve Swift review
On 10/27/2004 Pauliwog wrote in from United States  (64.5.nnn.nnn)

When I gave a deck review, what I meant was the Curve DART, Scott's new fishtail slalom shape (only mine is minus the fishy part of the tail). Thanks-Paul

 
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How useful is camber?
On 10/27/2004 airin wrote in from Canada  (142.22.nnn.nnn)

So how useful is camber in a longboard? I have been getting conflicting information on this. Some people say that for a good carving longboard camber is vital and that it contributes power in the turns. Other say that the camber reduces one's traction on the deck and actually detracts from the boards ability to carve well in terms of reducing stability during the turn.

So what's up? We're talking about boards over 40 inches here and carving at speed not just mellow slow carving. Any ideas?

Right now I ride a Landy DH with no camber of course and set up with Stims bushings on flipped hanger Randals it actually carves quite well for me. So how would a non-lowrider deck carve compared to the DH and how 'bout one with camber compared to one without?

 
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Deja vue
On 10/23/2004 Pauliwog wrote in from United States  (64.5.nnn.nnn)

I think there's a glitch in the Matrix

 
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Curve modified Swift(?)
On 10/23/2004 Pauliwog wrote in from United States  (64.5.nnn.nnn)

Scotty at Curve made an 8 ply, fibreglassed top and bottom 18/19" wheel base stiff no camber/no concave plank sorta deck for me. I think it's based on the Swift, his new sorta short fishtail slalom shape. I had him do he same shape but without the fishtail. It's on the wide side for T/S but very functional in a "defensive" situation where you want immediate response more than the energy storage and release of a cambered flex system, like in a really tight T/S course. I think I overestimated the amount of wood needed as it's a little heavy, but that was my idea/suggestion, so he probably could/would make one thinner and thus lighter if desired. Oh yeah, it's got big deep nice wheelwells also. I used it at Morro Bay 2004 for the Cyber slalom which is probably not my strong card in terms of types of slalom, but the Curve I used was the best in my quiver for that event. I ALMOST used it on Sunday's T/S but opted for my PP MollicaRedEye only because the pavement is kinda rough and I needed a soft board to absorb the chatter, had the pavement been smooth and nice (the way we like it but seldom get at a major T/S event) I probably would have used the Curve Sunday also as it was pretty dang tight. Thanks Scott, hope to see you November 7th in Salem if you can make it. Thanks- Paul

 
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Curve modified Swift(?)
On 10/23/2004 Pauliwog wrote in from United States  (64.5.nnn.nnn)

Scotty at Curve made an 8 ply, fibreglassed top and bottom 18/19" wheel base stiff no camber/no concave plank sorta deck for me. I think it's based on the Swift, his new sorta short fishtail slalom shape. I had him do he same shape but without the fishtail. It's on the wide side for T/S but very functional in a "defensive" situation where you want immediate response more than the energy storage and release of a cambered flex system, like in a really tight T/S course. I think I overestimated the amount of wood needed as it's a little heavy, but that was my idea/suggestion, so he probably could/would make one thinner and thus lighter if desired. Oh yeah, it's got big deep nice wheelwells also. I used it at Morro Bay 2004 for the Cyber slalom which is probably not my strong card in terms of types of slalom, but the Curve I used was the best in my quiver for that event. I ALMOST used it on Sunday's T/S but opted for my PP MollicaRedEye only because the pavement is kinda rough and I needed a soft board to absorb the chatter, had the pavement been smooth and nice (the way we like it but seldom get at a major T/S event) I probably would have used the Curve Sunday also as it was pretty dang tight. Thanks Scott, hope to see you November 7th in Salem if you can make it.

 
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bahne rocker
On 10/22/2004 GlenD wrote in from United States  (216.102.nnn.nnn)

anyone have the specs on a Bahne Rocker.
what is the wheelbase?

 
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supaflex longboard new!
On 10/21/2004 tony wrote in from Australia  (144.133.nnn.nnn)

I just noticed a brand new 140 cm supaflex deck on eBay Australia. It closes in about 5 hours

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7107362441

 
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skateboarding
On 10/20/2004 Jack wrote in from United States  (24.26.nnn.nnn)

I want to get sponcered by ghost riders

 
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Andrew's board
On 10/19/2004 hugh r wrote in from United States  (24.48.nnn.nnn)

Haven't ridden the evo... but between the dh and the swift 40, I prefer the 40 as a cruiser carver... more comfortable ridding platform for my big feet... better rear truck angle for turns (the dh rear turns slower) my two cents... HR

 
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On 10/18/2004 Andrew Kary wrote in from United States  (24.48.nnn.nnn)

landyachtz evo, landyachtz DH race, curve swift 40
Which would anyone reccomend for a cruising/downhill board on rough terrain? I have randal 2 180s and gumballs already.

 
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Chaput's Master Carve
On 10/18/2004 Frank wrote in from United States  (65.11.nnn.nnn)

Chris,

When or we gonna see or get some info on the Master Carve deck? I'm anxious man!!!

 
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DH Landy
On 10/16/2004 PSR wrote in from United States  (24.53.nnn.nnn)

JohnN, I can't vouch for the Evo,as I've only just stepped foot on one briefly.It has a mellower concave,and is wider up under the front foot,so it felt a bit more comfortable than my DH does.Whether it'll still have to 'edge' control at speed,I duuno? Likely. My DH has,as I noted,a pretty steep concave,so if you've got feet bigger than U.S. size 10,it might be a bit awkward feeling.That steep concave does some cool things though.It stiffens the board along it's length nicely(no flex-sag,which with a 'LowBoy' is crucial),and it provides a good platform in deep drifting turns.I've run mine with some differing setups,particularly in regards to trucks.The nose/tail are angled,as to help with stability.I found that using Randal DH baseplates,I had little steering,mega stability,and actually put mild wedges in to increase steering both front and rear.After that,and finding that I had stability to spare,I went to using thin flat risers and Randal R-2's.This was very nice in steering,but had a hint of instability at the high end.I then tried Z-Rollers (the older,metal-roller type,not the 'Luge' type with the big plastic roller)running Stimulators. This was pretty solid feeling,turny enough to deal with bad roads,stable enough to go fast. I also tried my old Rannalli trucks(like a tall Indy,maybe a bit like Tracker's new Sixtrac)and those were very stable,and not twitchy at all,but could still turn. I settled on the Z's,because of the 8mm,spinnable axle. For wheels,I've run Avillas,Gumballs(my fave on this board),Avalons(watch your ride height,add a thin riser as needed),Payaso Roadie Racers(great for Slides!),and Flywheels [not mine,had to put 'em back on Nelson's LY :-( ]. Because the DH loves to be pushed on in hard turns,I'd go with a wheel that's Big,and has that smooth breakaway from traction.Running Avalons works,sure,but the fuzzy end is brutal,as one moment you're On,the next you're Slippin' Away.Controlled drift is a good thing here,more important than pure grip. I didn't mess with truck position in terms of wheelbase.If you do that,beware of Wheel-Rub against the the corners of the deck.Don't go too wide in truck/wheel combos,as the wheels are Right There next to your feet,noticable most often in Pushing and Footbraking (Stepping on your wheel SUCKS!). With footbraking,I added a horseshoe-shaped foam 'stomp pad' (from Longskates.com,they sell Rolls of the sticky-back foamtop stuff) at the board's middle,to give me a referal point for foot placement.(PocketPistols also has neat wedged foam bits available.)You may not need this,but it helped me out,and has kept me from stepping down in the wrong spot. I also added a little tow-strap that wraps around the rear truck's risers,as this is a heavy board to carry uphill. Nice board,very fast,not a City Commuter,but quite fun on long,big,steep hills with few cars.In comparing it to the Evo,I think the Evo might be more comfortable over long hauls with it's mellower concave,so look at your foot size first...

 
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thanks joe
On 10/16/2004 toddc wrote in from United States  (68.125.nnn.nnn)

for the insight.

Don't tell me you're still riding carbon/hemp decks.

 
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skating
On 10/15/2004 joe wrote in from United States  (4.250.nnn.nnn)

i love to skate stoned its ridiculously awesome. marijuana to the highest degree

 
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dregs boards
On 10/15/2004 joe wrote in from United States  (4.250.nnn.nnn)

dregs boards to the m-o-s-t

 
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re: building
On 10/14/2004 rj wrote in from United States  (68.66.nnn.nnn)

Chuck,

I own a custom shop and we hand make all of our decks. Email me and i would be happy to give you some pointers and help you out.

Thanks
RJ

 
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Building
On 10/13/2004 Chuck wrote in from United States  (68.239.nnn.nnn)

I,m a little low on cash right now andmy board's thrashed and unusable right now. I'm intrested in wood craft so i was woundering if any one here has mde theres. Can I have some websites or tips?

 
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DH or Evo
On 10/13/2004 JohnN wrote in from United States  (68.239.nnn.nnn)

Which is a nicer, more agressive board and why? Evo or DH? What wheels to use in front and what in back?

 
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Loaded Fish
On 10/12/2004 Cassidy wrote in from United States  (130.212.nnn.nnn)

Hey guys,

I got a Loaded Fish last week and would like to take a moment to praise the board and the people of Loaded.

You can see a pic and read about it here: http://www.loadedboards.com/newsite_v1/fish.html

I wanted a board perfect for commuting the graded San Francisco State campus and adjacent streets. I needed something snappy and pumpable that could carve up moderate hills, with a kick tail for going down curbs.

I was torn between Insect, Landyachtz, Fiberflex and Loaded. The fish seemed most logical because it had the kick tail but was still compact and light. I was impressed by the technology and good reviews of Loaded's products and service here at NCDSA.

I sent an email asking a few questions about the Fish's truck setup. I got a killer reply the same day from Don answering my questions fully and completly. He must have spent a long time composing that message, it was three beefy paragraphs. I thanked him in a second reply, and he sent another long email about their company and riding philosophy. Awesome! I was sold on the product after talking with Don. Top notch service!

My folks bought the complete (Flex 2 with Tracker RT-S trucks, Max Abec 5s, and Krypto Classic 70s) for my birthday at my request. After shredding up my campus for the last few days, I must say it is the best longboard I have ever ridden in my life.

It has mounds of nice, tight flex. I don't know how they made it so smooth without compromising responsivness. It is tight and snappy without feeling a bit twitchy. It compliments my smooth but quick Santa Cruz surf style. Even relativly tame hills that would have me yawning on my Drop Carve are exciting again. I feel like every ounce of energy I throw into a corner is amplified as I pop out. This beast likes to be ridden hard... really, really hard.

I am not sure how this thing would handle big hills. I have had it up to 20ish mph, and am not sure I would want to take it much past 25 without tightening down the trucks. And on a board like this, you want to ride it loose and fast.

And if anyone is wondering: yes, the foam kick tail works great!

The construction is top notch. It has 32 layers of vertically laminated wood, with composite reinforcment on the bottom (and top?). The quality is excellent! I really like the epoxy and grit style of grip on the deck because it shows off the awesome v-lam and loaded logo.

The carbon and fiberglass reinforcment on my board, howerver, was not perfect. The carbon fiber was not cut cleanly and not fully wetted out before it was pressed or bagged, so there is some pitting. Also, there is some hazing in the epoxy finish on the bottom board. Either the sander burned the hot coat or they just don't bother hotcoating and I am seeing reminence of the press or bag. These issues are very minor and hard to see. I build surfboards for fun, so I know how hard it is to pull a perfect lamination and hot coat.

My only real complaint: no bearing spacers included and one of the bearing shields was damaged during assembly, so that wheel was a bit rattly. I just popped in another abec 5 bearing and took care of that.

Overall, this board is absolutely great! Words cannot express the joy I get from riding it! I suggest everyone pick up a Loaded.

Forgive me for being winded, I just can't praise this board enough.

 
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Best Deck for Sharp Turns and High Speed
On 10/11/2004 C-Money wrote in from United States  (155.94.nnn.nnn)

Brian, that is an impossible question to answer, the answer is any deck for a good skater, no deck for a bad skater. . . !

Try something with little flex in the 36" range (think G&S Fibreflex Leemo) with Randall 150s or Seismic 135s and Abec11 70s Flashbacks as a possibility.

Carl Kincaid
Knucklehead Racing

 
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decks
On 10/11/2004 brian wrote in from United States  (68.239.nnn.nnn)

Whats the best deck for sharp turning as well as speed stability under 150$

 
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decks
On 10/11/2004 brian wrote in from United States  (68.239.nnn.nnn)

What sthe best deck for sharp turning as well as stability a speed under 150$

 
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