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a part ment in chi town
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On 6/3/2005 shapeshifter
wrote in from
United States
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bwaaaahhhhhh!!! hawwwhaawwww!!!
gotta luv it man! pd ditty... ya made my day.
wish there were some killer instructions when i started glassing. maybe i would be doing it like it's supposed to be done. only attempted a solo composite layup earlier this year. think'n i've create a whole new way of doing things... the best way i can describe the work is that it's quite nontraditional.
guess everybody needs a place to start... oh yeah, don't forget to share in the nuance of shaping.
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Makin it!
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On 6/2/2005
PD
wrote in from
United States
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My recipe for success is out and emailed to about 12 guys who wanted to know how, at least, I do it. This recipe isn't going to work if you live in an apartment in, say, downtown Chicago, but if you're resourceful enough, it is possible...
Any more requests, just email me. I've got a 3-page Word Doc. with diagrams and a photo I can send you.
Cheers,
--PD
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cont. from below
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On 6/2/2005 herbn
wrote in from
United States
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i needed my much given advice of "just keep carving don't lock up and bomb" i kept railing turns, little sqeeks and squirms of slide in each one, and then the bottom the glorious bottom. Whew!
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my newest
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On 6/2/2005 herbn
wrote in from
United States
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now i really love it. Just back from a ride; an actual fast ride.Walk up in the dark,delude yourself into thinking you can remember all the blemishes in the pavement, then scare the living sht out of yourself carving to stay alive type of ride. The 5/8 birch dampened nicely my 45 degree, bearings as a pivot, 7075 billit parts including kingpin and kingpin reinforcing bracket worked smooth as silk ,a bit to smooth actually. I was thinking maybe all yellow powell hardcores would have been much more secure instead of half blue and half yellow.
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Boards from my neck. O th' woods
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On 6/2/2005
PD
wrote in from
United States
(24.176.nnn.nnn)
The recipe that I use is almost done. Should be able to email it to those who inquired in a day or so.
See ya,
PD
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Manta
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On 6/1/2005 AAAHHHH.............................
wrote in from
United States
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I think I just did,Yup... now I know .... I'm sure I did! The Manta is the youngest of "his" creations!
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MMMy MMManta
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On 6/1/2005
Joe I
wrote in from
United States
(24.2.nnn.nnn)
Shifter and Cno,
Love my Manta
It's my new Mantra
Load one with golf balls
Call it the Manta Sousa
MANTA - Coming soon to a big hill in VT.
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crazy-city
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On 6/1/2005 shapeshifter
wrote in from
United States
(24.148.nnn.nnn)
three of the last five boards i've made have met destruction in one way or another. three of the last ten have gone unfinished because there was yet another aspect to be explored. today i'm riding a deck that i've been dreaming of making for over eight months and i have already given it away...
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simplicity
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On 5/30/2005 tom t
wrote in from
Canada
(64.228.nnn.nnn)
Hey guys,
Haven't posted here in ages...just checking in with a bit of good news. I've made several boards in the past year, and skated them all. I'm surprised to find that my favorite is the simplest of all. Just a piece of 1/2" BB, about 34" long with a 24.5" WB. Flat w single kick. I bought a v-lam fiberglass deal, top-of-the-line, and I have hardly ridden it. I just like the feel and performance of my little homemade gun better!
Keep the Faith
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foam it isn't...
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On 5/30/2005 shapeshifter
wrote in from
United States
(24.148.nnn.nnn)
not to worry tod, it could be just the "medicine board" effect or it could be what i think you're sayin'. either way we'll work on improving what we got so that maybe someday neither of us will doubt our actions of the past.
sorry that i won't tell you how we do it paul, but i wonder if you can even imagine just how thick a board can be especially if foam is not even in the picture? i saw something the other day that made me think of something we discussed a couple years ago (golf balls if you remember) it worked along the lines your concept but added structural functionality to the picture.
i broke out a new design in st. louis yesterday that essentially has several beam like structures running along its length with empty spaces in between. the skin surrounding the structure simply were like two leaf springs acting on each other. is this the future? maybe not. but people who saw it realized they were looking at something totally different.
i am just a shapeshifter and the manta is one of my boards.
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Damn comfort zones
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On 5/30/2005
Tod
wrote in from
United States
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status quo = mediocrity...
I proved I'm old and set in my ways this past weekend by not embracing the Manta...
Al, love that deck... hate my indecisivness, See you next month
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carbon fibre
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On 5/30/2005
jawes
wrote in from
Sweden
(83.250.nnn.nnn)
Hi!
I have a few questions..thought of you guys, as the carpenters you all are.
I love the shape of a board I´ve been riding since last summer.
The only problem is that it is too damn heavy. I have built a couple of boards myself, birch, and birch+glass+polyester but the shape of this board is something I just cant do of my own.
I have bought a brand new deck, just like the one I´ve been riding since last summer.....I wanna get some wood off this board, and coat it with some carbon fibre....but I don´t know anything about carbon...
Would really appriciate some input.
The problem is as I said this: I wanna make the board Lightweight, without loosing any of its stiffness, it´s a dowhhill board and for DH I like my boards stiff!!
Thanks! =)
jawestyle@msn.com
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Makin' Boards...
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On 5/29/2005
PD
wrote in from
United States
(24.176.nnn.nnn)
Anyone want to know how to make yer own (kick-ass) Boards...
Just email me.
Piece of cake.
-PD
P.S. 1) Foam doesn't make the board. It's what's AROUND it that "makes the board."
2) Thickness of the foam is EVERYTHING
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resins
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On 5/29/2005 herbn
wrote in from
United States
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re duane,,, airdry epoxy? is it still two part? i guess if it was really just airdry it would just need to be kept sealed. What kind of resins do you suppose are used in stuff like carbon bike parts(structural stuff) like rims or frames,i'm particularly fond of the handling and strength/weight(lack of)of my giant tcr road bike and the fsa cranks.. cool stuff skate boards at that level would be amazing.
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tools and such
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On 5/27/2005 duane
wrote in from
United States
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the home-pour foam kits do sorta suck. The stuff expands so fast when you mix part A with part B that you have very little chance at getting good mixing before it starts expanding. You CAN get good foam of that type (polyisocyanurate) at atmospheric pours but it takes a high speed mixing head like they have in commercial set-ups. Trying to mix it in a cup you get big voids, inconsistent cell size, and a sticky sloppy surface, all due to poor mix
they pour the commercial big blocks in a poly-lined plywood box, then bang the plywood off. I ordered a 4x8x2 foot block many years ago, then had to drive 300 miles with it roped to the top of the car, it was BIG.
Re: air-dry epoxy. I don't use it anymore due to the poor heat resistance. Vinyl ester is better if you don't bake. Heat set epoxy is superior but unfortunately boards are a little too big to fit in standard ovens.
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foam is not foam is not foam
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On 5/27/2005 herbn
wrote in from
United States
(205.188.nnn.nnn)
as far as i recall no one on this site has reported success with pouring their own foam, the density of the foam is reliant on the air pressure in the work area,making foam at 1 atm makes a very light foam, maybe ok for surf boards although surfboard makers that pour their own cores maybe set up to mold under pressure,or surf board stresses may not require the compressive strength that other foam products do;skies, snowboards, airplane parts ect.. You should settle to using manufactured foam, 16lb is safe,or endgrain balsa. By the way "successful" foam projects would not be hanging foam on to a structure that would already works as a skateboard and putting fiberglass on it. Stop wasting time and creative talents trying to mix a "board in a jar" i tried a foam molding once about 15 - 20 years ago ,it was when jay smith shapes where very cool to me.Foam is made in a hyperbaric chamber,components are mixed and poured into the mold at higher than one atmospheric pressure.
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re dropthru trux
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On 5/26/2005
fitz
wrote in from
Australia
(203.164.nnn.nnn)
It sometimes pays to make the cutout with a bit extra clearance (2mm per side) when using randalls. the deckbolt holes aren't always drilled precisely and might not line up when you slot the baseplate in position.
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hate to admit I was told so
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On 5/25/2005 yan0
wrote in from
United States
(69.164.nnn.nnn)
Just got done a project I started way back... the one where I drilled a core with hundreds of 1/2" holes and then filled it with 2lb/ft density foam. People told me that the holes were to big, and that the foam was not dense enough. Did I listen.. no. The size of the holes wouldnt have been such a problem if the foam hadnt have been so damn porrous. So anyways...I shaped the foam down, and coted both sides with 5.6oz carbon. Felt great to startout with. There was so me crackingwhen I stepped on it,but figured it was probably from the epoxy that dripped in the holes. .... hoped more than figured actually. Its damn near winter here in VT, so brought the board with me down to NJ to visit a friend. Brought it out in the sun... and all of a sudden the bottom was dragging. with the added heat, the epoxy softened a bit, and then the carbon buckled into the holes that were undersupported by the crappy yet expensive foam. I now have a useless bananna board of sorts with about $30 of carbon in it. I am currently working on a speed board that has a cutout 3/4" birch core filled with foam (Insulation). Perhaps not ideal, but its better than what I had. I coated it with a layer of biaxal glass on the top and bttom and I have put one layer of carbon on the bottom. The interesting thing about it though is that I made a foam spine that I put between the glass and carbon...by making the core thicker, I make the board stiffer. It siffened it up hugely,but I think I am going toput one more layer on ..just so its bullet proof.
yan0
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Dropping Randals
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On 5/25/2005 EBasil
wrote in from
United States
(63.206.nnn.nnn)
A Forstner bit would be great, but costs about ten times what a like-sized spade bit does, if you buy them by the one. With a quick board flip to preserve the surfaces of the top/bottom, I've never had a problem with chatter or grabbing using the spade.
You've got nice equipment! Some of us just roll over to Home Depot and look for bits that come in a big, bright plastic boxed assortment...
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drop thruz
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On 5/24/2005 Paul
wrote in from
United States
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Try using an 1 1/8" Forstner bit instead of a spade bit, they cut like a dream and have no tendency to grab like spade bits do.
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Dropping Randals
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On 5/24/2005 EBasil
wrote in from
United States
(63.206.nnn.nnn)
I've found that it saves me a lot of labor to "cut" the round end of the drop-hole by using a spade-bit on a drill. Although the width of the slot is 1", I guess, the bit to use is the 3/4", since the pivot housing is not the same width. Them, I blend the transition from the retangular hole I cut for the rest of the baseplate, by using a rasp and then a bastard file.
I think this method is a lot "safer" than cutting a curve with the sabre saw. Oh...drill a pilot hole first, for the spike tip of the spade bit to follow. Drill halfway through, then flip the board so that there is a nice clean cut on both sides.
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180 template, make it easy
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On 5/23/2005 yan0
wrote in from
United States
(69.164.nnn.nnn)
Measure the baseplate. The part dropping through is 1" thick. Draw a center line, and mark 1/2" off on each side. put the base plate down, base down. Decide where you want it on the board, mark it. Drill, then cut with a jigsaw. When you have done that, set the baseplate in the rectangle, and mark where the braces are.... etc etc etc... I think its easier than centering a template.. but thats me
yan0
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Home Made
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On 5/23/2005 Gavin
wrote in from
United States
(69.63.nnn.nnn)
I like my Homemade Board, made right here in the good ol USA.
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template
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On 5/22/2005
hack
wrote in from
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yeah don't worry I did
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downloading templates?
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On 5/22/2005 herbn
wrote in from
United States
(152.163.nnn.nnn)
do you have a cnc machine? or do you just need a printout of the shape that needs to be cut out? it seems pretty straight forward, a rectangle between the bolt holes and a couple of angled slots for the gussets(unless you grind those off the baseplates) even if you down loaded a template would you still have to cut it out and center it manually between the mounting holes. While you wait for a reply on this website you could definitely have been done, using even the most primative wood working tools.
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