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Safety Equipment (1172 Posts)
Product Review
Slide gloves 'n CrashPads
On 9/13/2002 psYch0Lloyd wrote in from (198.160.nnn.nnn)

Wow! Thanks for the compliment Tom. I don't really consider myself an engineer and not that much of an artist either. But when approaching a problem, I really do try to think as would a child (just ask my wife).

Now, I don't believe that slide gloves should be labeled safety equipment necessarily even though they decrease the chance of injury. They just seem to be more like outriggers you can wear (I'm weird like that).

Alan Sidlo
Knucklehead Racing Team

P.S.: Oh yeah, yer right about those CrashPads. I've had mine now for a couple of years! Didn't think about removing the seat pads till I read Brady's post.

 
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Slidegear & Crashpads
On 9/12/2002 Tom M. wrote in from (12.222.nnn.nnn)

I'm almost a week behind but wanted to drop a mini-review per Alan Sidlo's SlideGear and the Outerwear/Underwear Crashpads.

Alan must either be an engineer or an artist. The combo slider 'glove' finger protectors are amazing. After using them, they make my homemade slidegloves look like a bugger. There's no way I can justify the 3+ hours of labor and $10+ bucks in materials I wasted on my kludgey gloves. [g]

When I look at Alan's sliders, I feel like Dr. McCoy in the Star Trek "Spock's Brain" episode -- right after McCoy gets the "smart" dose. "Damn Jim. Its so simple. A child could do it." Simple yet effective.

With my old gloves, the gloves would just kinda 'hang' there (they were incredibly bulky compared to the SlideGear). The SlideGear give me a much more percise feel of the road.

Only *potential* problem I can imagine (at least for my limited sliding experience), would be the ability of the SlideGear to maintain integrety in cold weather. However -- considering their originating location -- I'm sure if there is a problem, there will be a remedy in short order! [g]

Now, for the Crashpads. Took off Wednesday & headed to the park.
Last November, I took two slams to my right hip resulting in a bruise going from my knee to my waist -- anywhere from 3" to 8" in width, and taking over a month for the bruise and tenderness to clear up. I've had a couple of slams since -- thankfully not on the same day and same location -- UNTIL WEDNESDAY...

Slammed three times on the right hip, once on my right rear, and once on my knees/wristguards -> elbow pads (forward). I wanted to give it a day before I assessed the damage (at my age, it takes a day before the bruises start to show). I had a pretty good feeling things were going to be GOOD (never stopped skating for 3-1/2 hours or had *any* pain, plus, felt good enough to give the SlideGear a run when I found them in my mailbox upon returning home).

The score: Crashpads 5, MyBody 0 (well, my elbow is a bit bruised -- time to look up that Pro-Design site...) [g]

In my book, both of these products get BIG KUDOS!!

Tom M.

 
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Re: Pain Cheaters/Helmets
On 9/12/2002 Spat wrote in from (205.188.nnn.nnn)

Dan, good for you on ordering the Pain Cheaters. I promise, your knees are going to thank you for it on the big transitions. For helmets, most of the standard skateboarding helmets are really about the same.....a plastic shell with some padding. And this is adequate for park riding, etc. You should be fine with ProTec, TSG, S-One, Logic, etc. For the record, I bought a Logic from Longskate and it works just fine.

 
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Boneless
On 9/12/2002 dan wrote in from (162.78.nnn.nnn)

So, I ordered some Pain Cheater Knee Pads. But, in the mean time I purchased some Boneless ones. They are working out pretty good, I must say. Did some front side bails to my knees yesterday, and they are very nicely padded.

Now, I'm wondering Spat, what are your recomendations on helmets?
thanks,
dan

 
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Helmet wanted!
On 9/12/2002 Shredder wrote in from (132.230.nnn.nnn)

Hi!
I'm looking for a full face helmet, which has the the same foam like the Proo- Tec Ace Helmet. The Pro- Tec Fullface unfortunately has the styrofoam which I find not very practical as they hardly survive many crashes. Anybody can help me?

 
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Shoulder Pads
On 9/11/2002 dan wrote in from (209.191.nnn.nnn)

Boz, could you post the exact URL of the type of shoulder pads that you wear. It sounds like those would be light enough to wear slaloming. Because, ordering on line is always a difficult thing to do, when it comes to stuff I can't try on.
thanks,
dan

 
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Shoulder Pads
On 9/11/2002 The Boz wrote in from (216.210.nnn.nnn)

Dan,
I play lacrosse and have a set of pads from DeBeer that have plastic shoulder caps and don't have bicep pads. Shoulder pads with bicep pads are uncomfortable for me, because as I move my arms, the shoulder pads move around. Without the bicep pads, they sit down pretty good. I would wear a half-shirt underneath with an oversized mesh shirt on top. In a slalom race condition I might try a tighter shirt on the outside to cut down on wind resistance.
Hope this helps.

Tom Bosworth

 
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leathers
On 9/8/2002 Alex Maier wrote in from (208.181.nnn.nnn)

how much do full leathers cost used or new?

 
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Re: Boneless
On 9/7/2002 Spat wrote in from (152.163.nnn.nnn)

If you're looking for Boneless pads, go to www.geertsen.com. As far as reaching Boneless directly, good luck. I had talked to someone that was a distributor for Boneless and he said a big problem with them was 1 week they were in business, the next week they were nowhere to be found.

 
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Boneless Pads
On 9/6/2002 ohm wrote in from (207.172.nnn.nnn)

I will use nothing less than Boneless Pads. I lost one and haven't been able to find anyone that carries them. I have been using 2 20 year old Rectors, one on top of the other.

If anyone knows how to contact them directly please let me know.

Thanks

 
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Crash Pads Upper Body
On 9/5/2002 Adam wrote in from (66.121.nnn.nnn)

 
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Slide Gear
On 9/2/2002 K-LEE wrote in from (68.35.nnn.nnn)

I nominate Alan Sidlo's Slide Gear slider glove kit as the next "must have" product for downhill skateboarders, next on the list after RII trucks and Flashbacks. Slider gloves in general are a great idea, and these are the most functional ones for sale yet. How did I ever skate without putting my hands down?

 
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Crash Pads (hip pads)
On 9/2/2002 Tom M. wrote in from (12.222.nnn.nnn)

Bas,

As Scabs mentioned, Jack@VideoActionSports.com (Jack Smith) at JustPushPlay.com carries the Crashpads line. Problem is, sometimes I can find the stuff on his site, and sometimes (like right now) I can't.

If you email him directly, he'll get back to you with additional info. I ended up getting the Outerwear/Underwear pads. They have 1/2 inch soft foam-like padding sewn into the "suit". I've only tried them out once (got them for park use mainly) and I *can* say that they did not hinder my movement. I wore them under some loose pants & they breath very well (i.e., didn't seem to get any hotter than normal, etc.).

Since I didn't manage to slam (this time [g]), I can't say how they perform (protection wise). I *can* say that I felt a bit more "protected" wearing them (i.e., I didn't feel as "threatened" doing some stupid stuff).

Others have mentioned wearing hockey shorts or football padding for protection. These sound like they would offer even more protection (i.e., spread the impact over a larger area due to the hard pads), but I'm not real crazy about wearing "armor" into the battle field. [g]


 
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Boneless Knee and elbow pads
On 8/31/2002 Mark Westfall wrote in from (216.63.nnn.nnn)

Ive had the Boneless knee and elbow pads for 3 years....they are still holding
up....except they smell bad. I debated over the pads for months trying to get the most comfortable pads.....I even emailed a few pro's like Cab....well I ended up calling up Mr Geertsen from Boneless and he set me up.....I love the pads.....prebent and comfy....when standing up you have no presure against your knee cap....actually I forget they are on....but for sliding or whatever they hold up....my knees are really sensitive so I had to be picky....Boneless rule....If Danny Way and Hawk can fly and be safe.....then they are ok with me....to me Pro Design are too bulky....sorta like hockey pads....my friend has a pair they allways slide off and messes up his knees....the only thing I had to do with pads was put a tuck in the straps cause the elastic stretched out....If your wonderring about sizing, I'm 5'10 170lbs....and wear XL.....the pads are sized pretty small....they work best for me when they are over the skinn and not a pair of pants....just to restrictive.

 
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elbow pads
On 8/29/2002 Kevin wrote in from (209.179.nnn.nnn)


Had trouble finding adult size elbow pads until I
saw some kid size knee pads at a store. Really
comfortable and still good protection for adult size
elbows.

 
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Giro Semi
On 8/29/2002 The Boz wrote in from (216.210.nnn.nnn)

Check this out:
Sierra Trading Post has Giro Semi's for $19.99 each. It's the metallic olive color. Cover with stickers to your own taste.

Cheapest price for a Semi that I've ever seen.

Tom Bosworth

 
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Sliding gloves with wrist guards
On 8/27/2002 psYch0Lloyd wrote in from (24.148.nnn.nnn)

Glenn S.: I'd like to answer your question in the Vendor's Corner...

 
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???: Sliding gloves with wrist guards
On 8/27/2002 Glenn S. wrote in from (68.5.nnn.nnn)

Anyone use sliding gloves with wrist guards at the same time?

And what companies make good wrist guards?

 
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Crash Pads (hip pads)
On 8/25/2002 Scabs wrote in from (66.21.nnn.nnn)

Bas de Vries,
I posted this before but I`ll repost it again for you...

On 7/29/2002 scabs wrote in from 66.21.xxx.xxx:
Here`s a link to JUSTPUSHPLAY.com that shows the crash pads. You might want to email Jack Smith directly with any additional questions. Jack, being one of the FCR/TLP guys, is a great duy to deal with.

http://store.yahoo.com/justpushplay/sh104.html

BTW, I`ve cut the liner out of the crotch for more comfort. It`s intended to give support or cushion to a bike rider. Not needed for skateboarding IMHO.

Brady

 
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more protection
On 8/25/2002 Bas de Vries wrote in from (213.75.nnn.nnn)

Hello people!

I am a 29 years old enthousiast who started longboardskating last year. I skate in Holland, the flat country in Europe. So it's mostly cruising for me here. I have a question concerning other protection materials. I already took some nasty falls, so I am happy to have the helmet, wrist guards, elbow pads and the knee pads. My back, collar bone and hips however are not protected during a ride. Is there anything on the market for these important places? I know longboardskating is not about looking like an ice hockey player, but I am just plain curious and want to protect my self as good as possible.

Hope you can help!

Thanks and keep riding!
Bas

 
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Pads
On 8/23/2002 Jett wrote in from (152.163.nnn.nnn)

Spat,
Thanks for the info/advice :)

 
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Pads for Jett
On 8/23/2002 Spat wrote in from (152.163.nnn.nnn)

Jett, I'm assuming you're using your pads for park or vert applications so I usually lean towards "the more protection, the better." So, I'd probably go with the Super Singles which I beleive are just a beefier version of the traditional. Give Bill at PD a call and I'm sure he can square you away with everything you need. Glad to see another skater saying goodbye to cheap pads.

 
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Pro -tec
On 8/23/2002 Kevin wrote in from (209.179.nnn.nnn)

I use wrist guards like sliding gloves and wear out
the insert pretty fast. So, I emailed pro -tec and asked
to purchase some more wrist guard inserts. It took a
while , but they contacted me and sent me 12 FREE
wrist guard inserts.

 
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Spat's List
On 8/23/2002 Jett wrote in from (152.163.nnn.nnn)

Spat,
I'm looking to replace my aging Rector Fat Boys and your post, rating knee pads, was just what I was looking for. Pain Cheaters are out of my price range. Would you recommend that I get the Pro Designed "Super Single" pads rather than the "traditional" PDs?

 
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Pads Again
On 8/23/2002 Spat wrote in from (152.163.nnn.nnn)

Points well taken WesE. I've heard a lot of good things about the premium Harbingers yet have not had a chance to personally look at them otherwise I might have rated them higher. As far as Boneless goes, I owned a pair of these before my PCs and beleive it or not they are a very comfortable set of knee pads. The pre bent design works great for transition skating considering your legs are seldom perfectly straight. I must say though, when I first received my PCs and compared them to my Boneless, I was taken back to say the least. The Boneless just looked so inadequate compared to the PCs. Life's too short to buy cheap pads.

 
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