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On 11/3/2007 WAX
wrote in from
United States
(71.196.nnn.nnn)
Donald and Frank are doing awesome stuff with trucks and boards I cant wait to try the TS front...
Like Chaput said..remember when there were no choices...now look at all the awesome gear we have to choose from. I like the GOG trucks so much I am down to just riding splits as rears on 2 boards..GOG everywhere else....
and as for the COSS Open..
I beat Brad Jackman in the finals of the Hybrid, then he got hurt before the tight..but I won that too..
Both times I got to race Brad this year was the most fun I had all year...First time was at the Nationals..He got me good...so I need to return the favor at the Open...fun, fast racing...I wish Brad all the success in the world in the Pro ranks...hopefully I will gain enough experience racing in the next season or 2 so I can step up and get to race with him again. Jackman is truly one of the funnest skaters to ride with or against that I have ever met.
Plus, that will keep me busy for the next 7 years till I get a shot at you in the masters Paul
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Trucks -n- Stuff
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On 11/3/2007 Pauliwog
wrote in from
United States
(65.122.nnn.nnn)
DONALD20 - I don't ride any of your gear but thanks for putting out good stuff, it definately is a great contribution.
WAX - Nice finish at the COSS Open!! Chewning told me he thinks you got 1st in the Open in the TIGHT???? Is that true? "Wax" blazing in "tight" slalom??? I never thought I'd see the day. Whatever course it was on, Congratulations.
-P
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GOG
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On 11/3/2007 WAX
wrote in from
United States
(71.196.nnn.nnn)
I cant wait to try the TS truck...
and the adjustable front...awesome I am so stoked to ride these innovations
Great work Frank
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interesting
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On 11/3/2007 herbn
wrote in from
United States
(71.127.nnn.nnn)
one little observation,the first adjustable truck(right) doesn't change axle/ride height when you vary the turning angle,this one looks like it changes a bit. Not a huge deal, you may have even done it on purpose, and you could adjust the shapes just a bit and get that feature.the axle would need to be positioned above/below the center bolt in the base,and the arc that the secondary baseplate slides on needs to be the same radius as the axle height(as if it was drawn by a compass located at the axle). LOoks cool, are there people that like a regular geometry that much? maybe its for king pin clearence.
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rust never sleeps
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On 11/2/2007
donald20
wrote in from
Germany
(88.76.nnn.nnn)
next year baby next year
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Gulwing sidwinder trucks
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On 10/31/2007 Tibor
wrote in from
United States
(71.235.nnn.nnn)
http://www.sector9.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=TKS9&Category_Code=TK
theres your trucks
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side winder 2 trucks
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On 10/13/2007
paul ireland
wrote in from
United States
(64.12.nnn.nnn)
does any one know when the side winder 2 trucks will be availible to buy just the trucks. right now you can only buy them on completes, they wont sell them alone????????????
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Bennett home
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On 10/9/2007 PSR
wrote in from
United States
(75.68.nnn.nnn)
Adrian, try this cut+paste addy;
http://www.bennetttruks.com/index.php
There's an e-mail contact on this page, probably as direct as you can get.
I saw that Daddies Boardshop has Bennett Bushings, so they may have other parts? Milehigh may also be worth asking about parts.
Another 'vintage' truck that can donate a baseplate (though these are uncommon to find, and imho, equal to Bennetts in turning, ride, quality; Energy V, VI, VII and Freestyle. Haven't seen these on Ebay in years...
I've heard the California Slalom bases work too, but again, that's one of those kinda cool vintage trucks that I'd be hard-pressed to part-out for baseplates.
Both of these should, like the more common ACS bases, fit the old Chicago 3-hole pattern.
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thanks PSR
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On 10/9/2007
Adrian
wrote in from
United States
(67.125.nnn.nnn)
thanks for the info...
do you know Bennetts website? I can't find it!
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Bennett bases
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On 10/8/2007 PSR
wrote in from
United States
(75.68.nnn.nnn)
Adrian, you should keep an eye out for older ACS baseplates, as they fit Bennett Hijacker/Pro/Ad+Trak almost perfectly. Back when Bennett was using plastic baseplates (this was '77 or so?), a friend of mine switched out one of my cracked plastic bases with one from an ACS 580. It lasted 26 years before the kingpin threading in the baseplate stripped, so this is an idea that works!
Look for Black bases from these models (they should have 9 holes, two from 4-hole patterns, and the single hole by the bushings for Chicago 3-hole mounting); ACS 651,580,and 500. Not these; ACS 900,800,Lite,650,or 450, although the Lite,650 bases would fit a Bennett, they'll lack the 3-hole option.
Bennett might also have spares? Try contacting them, now that they're making trucks again.
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Bennett Baseplate replacement?
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On 10/8/2007
Adrian
wrote in from
United States
(67.125.nnn.nnn)
Does anyone know if there's a place where I can get some 3 hole baseplate replacements? I still have my old Bennetts, and that's all I would need to get my 30 year old ride going again!
Thanks--- you can email me at hpoulcek@aol.com
I'm in Southern California
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yuck!
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On 10/8/2007 herbn
wrote in from
United States
(205.188.nnn.nnn)
heavy yuck ,tall yuck, yuck ,yuck! just changing the geometry of the trucks doesn't make it good for really bombing really scary hills.At that height it wouldn't carve that great either. I'll have to see if i can find a video of it in action.
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original cams
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On 10/2/2007
peters
wrote in from
United States
(76.104.nnn.nnn)
you just have to keep the cams lubed well, and the two 'settings' i've had my originals on are Loose and Looser. tightening definately chunks the cams. when they're dialed they are smooth as silk.
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original
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On 10/1/2007 hc
wrote in from
United States
(71.198.nnn.nnn)
there are some info on silverfish forum,
I glanced at it before,
seems like the cam breakage are a common problem,
I think they recommend against overtightening.
http://www.originalskateboards.com/longboard_parts.html
they keep calling the cams 'bushings'....
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just search original longboard trucks
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On 10/1/2007 herbn
wrote in from
United States
(205.188.nnn.nnn)
that's what i told my customer to do,should work,i guess. It's just a fairly alien looking part, i guess it's very common in the world or original trucks. The shop they bought the board at doesn't bother to carry replacement parts, they say those bushings last 6-12 months.
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original problems
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On 10/1/2007 herbn
wrote in from
United States
(205.188.nnn.nnn)
the reason i came here today ,not to theorize on what constitutes cloning a truck instead of coming up with an original idea,pardon the pun.A customer came in with busted original truck ,the plastic cam that makes them compress the spring was broken into several pieces ,are these cams available ,i would think so ,those trucks are filthy to work on my hands looked like i replaced a set of cv joints after i extracted the broken pieces and reassembled the parts into a non functioning truck, i think the customer was trying to tighten them for hills,they don't look like they tighten.you just replace springs like seismics?
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gullwings
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On 10/1/2007 herbn
wrote in from
United States
(205.188.nnn.nnn)
three year old,gullwings, wouldn't be the randalike(speedspring) geometry three years ago was before sector bought gullwing. Are bear trucks randal clone there is one that's a bit closer but the 40 machined dh trucks could be easily lumped together as "randal clones" the gullwings with the right angle bushing aliegnment are different enough.
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randals
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On 10/1/2007 hc
wrote in from
United States
(71.198.nnn.nnn)
I take it those gullwings are like conventional trucks. They have new gullwing alpines from S9 that are essentially randal clones.
There is a reason why the randal design is popular for downhill riding. They out turn convention trucks and are more stable.
For speed carving, a stiff deck and randals is the way to go.
Try hooking up with downhill riders in your area, you can get advice and also try out their setups.
Learn how to pump and slide. They will help out your riding.
hc
www.geocities.com/sk8sanjose
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Aussie
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On 9/30/2007
kate
wrote in from
Australia
(124.148.nnn.nnn)
ive been riding a
sector9 L: 34' W:8.25x24.5 with gullwings and 70mm wheels for 3 years. I live near the Gold Coast, heaps of surfers love the longboards but theres mostly surfy/style and freestyle skaters.
i like riding downhills with carve action but with tightened trucks going up to 40kmph it wobbles and i cant carve it much at that speed. so im searching for better trucks.
thanks for your help.
hows it going there? Northern California is it?
peace
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get a randal
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On 9/30/2007
hc
wrote in from
United States
(71.198.nnn.nnn)
sidewinders are turnier than randal cause its got 2 pivot axis.
There are a whole bunch of super turny trucks out there, but they dont handle speed well. (exkate, revenge, originals, carvestik, etc)
I think a Randal is a must have for every lonboarder, they are great carving trucks and can handle some speed.
I am not much of a fan of seismics (btw they are not that turny) some people like the spring action
I would like to try jimZ or radikals for longboard carving, but they are $$$
is this your first board?
lots of longboarders in australia?
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Sidewinder-Seismic-Randal
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On 9/30/2007
kate
wrote in from
Australia
(124.148.nnn.nnn)
thanks hc
im looking for a truck for high speeds and turny carves.
Do you know what the Seimic is like compared to the Sidewinder or Randal R2s?
Can you turn as good as a sidewinder on the Randal R2s?
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sidewinder / smoothstar
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On 9/30/2007 hc
wrote in from
United States
(71.198.nnn.nnn)
they are different rides
sidewinder are turny trucks, they should handle 30kmph (20mph)
faster speed go for Randal R2's
smoothstar are different, more of a swiveling motion up front.
more of a low speed fun surfy style truck.
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Gullwing Sidewinder Trucks Sector 9 Smoothstar
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On 9/30/2007
Kate
wrote in from
Australia
(124.148.nnn.nnn)
G'Day mateys
Does anyone know if the Gullwing Sidewinder Trucks are stable enough for going up to 25-30 km per hour?
How good do you recon the Sector9s with Sidewinder trucks are compared to a 36'' Smoothstar board
Thanks for you time
Kate
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bearings in trucks
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On 9/29/2007 herbn
wrote in from
United States
(64.12.nnn.nnn)
After riding my new board the other day i was considering a comparison to randal dh,randals have a 35 degree turning angle/axis my trucks average out to just about exactly that, 29 degrees for the back truck and 41 degrees for the front,this was sort of coincidense, in the milling machine i clamped a block of metal without and angle finder(really should buy one) and milled the flat surface for the pivotwith the front of the cutter and then the flat for the kingpin with the side of the cutter. I'm pretty sure my trucks turn a lot more than randal dh's, i should take a spin on my old board with a set of randal dh trucks but i was wondering, my trucks pivot on sealed micro bearings,do randal dh's that have bearings installed turn more?
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Seismic Guy
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On 9/27/2007 PSR
wrote in from
United States
(75.68.nnn.nnn)
Guy, if you're of 'average' build, around 160 to 200 lbs, get the Yellow {extra light} springs up front, Dark Green {medium} at the rear, but also one pair of Red {light} springs to fill-in as either stiffer fronts/or/softer rear springs. [If you're lighter, you may want the next softer grouping (which would be super-light thru light), or if you're bigger/more aggressive, the next stiffer group(light thru heavy) of springs?] The idea here is a stiffer rear than front, letting the front initiate turns, using the rear to power thru turns. Definately use the 45* baseplate up front, and the 30* at the rear. Add small wedge angles to further tune in the steering input you want.
This would allow for cruising/slalom, but may be a little 'loose' or surfy for truly bombing hills. Seismics, even loose, can be pretty easy to run fast, but may be un-nerving, as they'll always seem to Want to turn, not really 'settling' on dead-flat-straight. This is because of the dual springs in the spring cartridges, and you compress the inner, 'little' spring just off from running straight, and compress the bigger outer (color coded) once you've leaned into the turn a bit. Keep in mind that each spring, at each wheel location, can be set at differing tensions (example; you can make your rear-foot heelside stiffer than the toeside, even using the same color spring set on the rear truck). This may take awhile to tune in. You might also find that the spring combo you like for pumping turns won't quite be stiff enough for bombing/tucking/drifting. That can feel like a hassle, kinda, just because switching spring cartridges is more work than switching out normal truck bushings. Still, I think with three pairs of springs that start fairly soft and get into med-stiff territory, you'll be able to get the compromise of manuvering and speed you're looking for.
Also note that the rebound of Seismic springs makes for great energy-return. This means you can run a fairly 'soft' feeling truck and get a good pump out of it. I've found that if I'm 'soft' in my putting pressure into my turns, I can bomb pretty damn fast on pretty loose trucks without much worry about wobbles. Likewise, I've found that running stiffer springs, I can still pump hard at speeds I'd otherwise be trying for a quiet, stable tuck. I can't pump the stiff springs at slow velocity well, unless the deck has flex/camber. The one oddity has been in slides; I've had the rebound make the wheels 'hop' in some pushed pendilum-type slides, which has been squirrelly to ride out.
One last, cool thing with Seismics; Set the ride height up right(match risers to the wheel size), and you'll never rub a wheel on the underside of the deck. This is a groovy thing when pushing turns really hard at speed. You can jam as deep as you need into the cutback, and the trucks will turn right up to the bump-stop predictably every time.
I've been riding these trucks since '96, still have my first pair, and have used them on Pool, DH, New-School, luge, Cruiser/Longboard, Slalom/G.S., and even 6-wheeler boards. They're not for everyone, but if you can dial 'em in, you'll be hooked.
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