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Soulriding (2099 Posts)
Topic Soulspeak
On 6/8/2004 AdamH wrote in from (66.177.nnn.nnn)

There should be a Glossary page on this website containing particular words associated with this sport.

 
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On 6/7/2004 Airin wrote in from (154.20.nnn.nnn)

What exactly is meant by the term 'pivot' when soulcarving on a longboard? Is it a really tight turn when carving.... used to scrub speed perhaps?

 
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On 6/7/2004 North Carolina Longboarder wrote in from (63.167.nnn.nnn)

MoMatt: Sorry you're hurting dude! Hope you get back on the board soon. We are planning a drive up to Asheville next week to take the Old Geezer Crew (OGC) to the Food Lion Skatepark. www.foodlionskatepark.com

Any one out there in Soulboard land ridden this place? Anyone on a longboard?

 
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On 6/7/2004 MissouriMatt wrote in from (128.206.nnn.nnn)

Enjoying all these great long posts on the soulboard. Not much to report from MissouriMatt. Went at the park to hard for my repared knee and haven't skated since Friday. Almost the worst skate I've ever had. My painful stiff body just would'nt let me get in the grove. So I'll focus on rehab activity and read your great posts to inspire me to get over the hump for good.
Ride on. Thanks for sharing.

 
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On 6/6/2004 North Carolina Longboarder wrote in from (63.167.nnn.nnn)

Dude, I had one of those yellow piece of plastic boards! Wore the tail litterally off along with the bottom of pair of my tennis shoes doing wheelies(manuals) dragging the tail while being towed by another kid riding a bicycle. We got an old waterski rope and tied it the seat post. We would take turns pulling each other up and down the street while all the neighbors would sit out on their front porches just waiting for us to bite it.
Thanks for the memory Wacky! Awesome!

 
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On 6/6/2004 wacky wrote in from (67.169.nnn.nnn)

7-11 flashback revisited..

it was a "continental" skateboard and they had free standing displays set up in 7-11's (@ least in the seattle area) i think the boards were $25-$30 bucks i even vaguely remember california free formers available @ 7-11 also ...you know the "banana" decks pretty narrow and made w/a pretty thick yellow plastic. it's just like the one dave maxwell rocks @ the hangar bowl in concrete wave ~ vol.1 iss.2 ...now that's pretty sick! props to dave maxwell!!

we have come a long ways since then but apparently if you can skate ...you can skate anything!! anyway just remembered it was a continental not cadillac as i had previously mentioned.

peace ...monson

 
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On 6/6/2004 ethan wrote in from (64.175.nnn.nnn)

Just got back from my best skate session all year. Went out to the Presidio at like 6:30 am for my usual weekend Dawn Patrol, and what do I find but a bunch of streets closed to traffic for the Alcatraz Triathalon.

McDowell Ave was closed to traffic all the way down do Crissy Field. SO basically I just spent 3 hours doing carfree downhill unitl my legs couldn't left my feet anymore and my Flashbacks were ridiculously coned. Fu**ing great morning.

Anyway, take note...next year when you here "alcatraz triathaolon' think car free McDowel Ave (and no bike racers on it either...it was just closed because it FED INTO the stree the bike race was on.

 
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On 6/6/2004 North Carolina Longboarder wrote in from (63.167.nnn.nnn)

(Also posted on "Longboarding forum)
This morning at exactly 6 am 3 Carving Board enthusiasts and I lone longboard skateboarder rider (that's me) made our first run of the summer down Highway 421 east of Boone, NC starting at the top of the mountain and the new Blue Ridges Parway Bridge and carving down the mountain toward North Wilkesboro, NC. As I have described in the past, it is a 4 lane highway winding down a mountain with no median and a turning lane down the middle for almost the entire run and 4 lane's wide with no median the entire 4.5 mile length. As always it was like nothing I have ever ridden. I started my watch when I rolled in at the top off the side rode and 30 minutes and 36 seconds later I pulled a powerslide at the bottom beside the car left to shuttle back (I was not trying to go super fast just turn long carves and pivots at speed). As I have said before the grade of the route is about 6-8% in most sections and 5% for the rest. The state has paved the bottom half fairly recently and it was very smooth, the only obstacles being the embedded reflectors in the middle of the lanes. They are spaced far enough apart that they really don't come into play too much if you set up your carve right. When I say it was a 30 minute run I mean literally without stopping. I only stepped off my board once and that was at the top of the hill when I realized I had carried way too much speed early going into a backside pivot at a guard rail. My adrenilin had me pushing way too hard out of the top. That was pretty freakin stupid. I got my composure back and the rest of the run was just ridiculous! I felt liked I was stealing something at the bottom...it was so good I felt like I should be paying someone for that ride! Oh, that's right I have with my taxes! Thank you Department of Transportation of North Carolina for building such a fine piece of asphault off of that mountain and failing to consider a median! Damn, what a rush. And traffic was very light, with only 6 or 7 cars, two dogs, no highway patrol, and one dude in a truck offering me a ride back up the hill cause "he was heddin dat way to go fishin'", the whole ride.
As a note of interest, the guys on the Carve Boards finished 19 minutes behind me. I actually walked back up the hill 1000 meters or so and finished the last section again with them.

Needless to say, I am toast now! The drive back (its about 1 hour) seem to take twice as long. Thanks for letting me share.

Roll on Brothers and Sisters! Roll on Roll on!

 
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On 6/5/2004 wacky wrote in from (67.169.nnn.nnn)

hey throwback skatecats...

i thought i ought to leave a little bio as well since i fit into the 70's soul school ~ keeping the stoke alive club! i'm 39 (i hit 40 next jan)and i have been enjoying the skate renaissance since '96 ...it is especially sweet since my 5 yr. old started skating this april! he is the oldest of three boys and then a new little girl (ages 5~3~2~8 months)...we started a little later and packed 'em all together! anyway bowie my 5 yr. old can skate the local 6 story parking garage w/me top to bottom w/o stepping off he just carves the speed out and he actually bombs many sections it gives me a huge stoke! the other little leprechauns get frequent rides on the front of my longboards around the neighborhood, down the garage and on local hills. i have ventured back into the parks for the first time after a 17 yr. haitus due to my 5 yr. olds desire to skate the parks and we have a blast! it is definitely cool passing the torch on to the next generation and kids @ the parks always make comments on how they wished their dads were skaters ~ i do run into other father/son tandems and it's fun to exchange stories and share the stoke!

my adventures started the summer of '75 when i bought a plastic skateboard @ 7-11 (i think it was a cadillac it was the jaws model w/a kicktail ~ does that create a flashback for anyone?) i grew up in seattle and we had lots of killa hills and banks but no local parks ~ we made pine cone slalom street courses and did epic gs courses on the bigger hills also throwin' in our fair share of bombing and then the subsequent speed wobbles and the ultra gnarly bails on rough asphalt barefoot & shirtless! that progressed into building ramps and 1/2 pipes and combing the city for huge banks in playgrounds & parking lots (think revere)and of course the ever elusive pools not real frequent in seattle(especially in the 70's) but we managed to find a few! ...what a screamin' time! we even had a big concrete 1/2 pipe that one the cats had in his back yard (his dad was a contractor)so even w/o direct access to parks we had a howlin' time! we did skate some parks but they were 1-2 hr. drives and weren't real convenient. it was always ragin' but it never seemed to compare with the explosion chronicled in the pages of skateboarder magazine ~ it was always the quest to take our skating to the next level exemplified by our heroes!
*my personal faves were pineapple/olsen/peters/peralta/bowman/andrecht ~ it was impossible to be as cool or skate as fluid or aggressive as they did!

in college i was more interested in bands and creating music although i did bring one skateboard to college ~ which i still have and i still ride ...my santa cruz klaus grabke! so i spent more time singing and performing than i did skating it was just transportation to & from class and occasional sessions on banks & stuff. then came the sessionless dark ages when the deck sat motionless except for cruising around the neighborhood and commuting.

then in '96 i was in portland (where i hit the summer surf along the oregon coast)and woke up to the soul revolution through some articles on longboardskates in longboarding surf magazine. i tracked down an s9 pintail and i've been carving it up 2-3 times a week ever since (weather permitting) i now live in provo, utah and have easy access to some killa terrain ~ carve-a-liscious foothill slopes and canyon runs/parks & ramps/banks & parking garages/currently on the quest for skateable ditches in the provo/slc area!!

my carving quiver consists of an s9 concave pintail (not my original) w/rII's & flashbacks ~ a chuck barfoot squaretail w/rII's & flashbacks ~ an ed econ surfrider w/rII's or seismic 180's & gumballs ~ and while not a true skate a carveboard ...the ultimate carve machine ~ for parks & ditches i have a bahne rocker 32" w/randal 150's and 60mm no skoolz and my old school santa cruz klaus grabke w/trackers and 60mm no skoolz.

i have to echo that the night session is a fantastic thing! 10pm hits the kids are in bed the wife is settled into reading or a project and the streets are free and the world is a peaceful playground to throw layback carves and feel the flow & soul of the skate experience this coupled w/the similar experience of early morning dawn patrol on saturdays creates a lot of great skate stoke!

peace ...monson

 
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On 6/5/2004 wacky wrote in from (67.169.nnn.nnn)

hey skatecats... (this is a dual post from sidewalk surfing)

kinda rollin' on the sidlo tip ~ make the skate happen! i recently bought the dvd "step into liquid" which is pretty killa it basically chronicles the various aspects of surf culture and how you should just get your stoke on in any form of surfing available to you. the main message was if you surf you're a surfer and are tied into the surf culture. i'm a summer surfer and get my surf stoke with a yearly pilgrimage to santa cruz to visit some great friends and of course surf! i also plan to try wake surfing this summer on some local lakes so that should help keep the surf stoke going.

the real point i want to make is the inspiration i received from a story in the movie featuring dave webster he is dedicated surfcat up in nocal who surfed 10,407 consecutive days! (that's 28 1/2 yrs) so i figured i could at least make the daily dedication to session everyday this summer ...even it is just a quick 15 min. 3 run session down the 6 story parking garage 2 blocks away. i have been going since june 1st and thought it was a fun goal to keep the daily stoke going. some of you have access to a backyard pool and the daily stoke is probably a foregone conclusion.

the point is make a daily session ~ carve up a hill/wiggle a course/rip up a ditch/rule a pool ~ do whatever you can to keep the stoke alive! we are all skaters and that is translated on so many levels ...if you love to skate you are part of the skate culture no matter what you skate or how you skate it ~ if the passion burns ride the concrete wave! we all contribute to the overall universal stoke when we get out and session so hit a session today and stoke it up!

peace ...monson

 
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On 6/4/2004 Sandragon wrote in from (161.149.nnn.nnn)

Skating is remarkably sensitive. I skated to work this morning, set out around 0515 for the four-mile push-and-roll to the bus stop. No big hurry, just rolling along under thin low clouds that were just beginning to pick up the new day's light.

Parts of the route were repaved recently. Very smooth. Most of the route is uphill, so there's more pushing than rolling, but on the downhills I just made wide turns to keep the speed in check. Toeside, backside, and then straight down to carry enough speed to cross the next street and then climb some more.

The difference this morning was that there was no wind at all. Most of the time the breeze is offshore, into my face. Today I could roll forever once I got to the gentle downgrades on the east side of the hill. Block after block, no one else stirring, the board just carrying me along. This area also has new asphalt and is much faster than it was. A real delight, the board nearly silent, the ground almost disappearing in the dark.

Once I got to Pico I had to push again. It was nice while it lasted. And then I had to go to work.
--Larry

 
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On 6/2/2004 North Carolina Longboarder wrote in from (63.167.nnn.nnn)

Magic Ed: You nailed it on the head, night riding is just the best for me too.
After our session Friday we all went to the Waffle House and grabbed some grub. On the way back to my house at about 4 am I drove past where we had ridden. I jumped out of the truck, grabbed my longboard out of the back and took one last slow ride alone down the hill just carving these big ol turns and just riding as smooth as possible. It was by far the best run of the night. I walked back up the hill smiling the whole way, got in the truck and went on to the house. My wife chuckled as I crawled under the covers and just mumbled something about being married to a crazy man.

 
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On 6/2/2004 magic ed wrote in from (152.78.nnn.nnn)

night riding is amazing. i just find i dont get the sense of flowing and feeling centred when i skate at any other time. the best skate i've ever had is when i was finishing my disseration for my engineering degree and at five am at the 24hr computer rooms at uni i'd found i'd left a load of inportant documents at home. so i carved my way home along a set of roads that are normally solid with speeding cars and with every carve i could feel the stress that'd been simmering away just flow out into the night. magical.

 
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On 6/1/2004 North Carolina Longboarder wrote in from (63.167.nnn.nnn)

Silversurfer: Check out my post on Longboarding about the skate session Friday night. You'll get a kick out of it.
As far as the Stik, it was a fun diversion from my skateboard but I didn't like the fact that I was constantly railing on it. I mean, I actually like going straight some times down a fall line or to pick up speed to carry a section or something and I found the Stik just not particularly stable for that. I imagine if I had one though after a while I would get more use to that part. Also, the way the trucks are angled felt a little weird under my feet. The guys that I ride the mountain run with all ride either Carve Boards with the big ass inflatable tires or one of them rides a Stik. This Sunday morning is designated as our first run of the year. (We usually make the trip two to three times in the summer). It's a 4 lane wide mountain highway that has no median and is about an 8% grade for over 4 and 1/2 miles. I have been skating as much as a I possibly can to get my legs ready for the run but there is nothing to compare it to. This time I am going to try to mentally count how many pivots I take to get down the mountain. There is one section where the road actually goes back up a bit. The carveboarders can't carry enough speed to actually get up it but on my board I can by tucking and dropping straight down the fall line when I see that section coming. We make the run at sun up on Sunday's to limit the amount of traffic we encounter. Last year I actually beefed it in the first 400 meters because I carried way too much speed into a pivot right at a freakin guardrail. I don't plan on pulling that one this time, that's for sure.
I will post the review of the run on Sunday night after we have done the morning run. Last year it took me about 40 minutes to make it down the mountain. I guess we will see how it goes this year.

 
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On 5/28/2004 silversurfer wrote in from (24.62.nnn.nnn)

Dogtown and Z boys - that's exactly the way I want to skate. Not the vert, not the pools. Just the way they skated the banks at the schools and the way they skated Bicknell hill. Bertleman turns and the rest, like Jay Adams at the Bahne/Cadilac contest.

Surfy Trucks - I asked about this on the truck forum also. They all seemed to think that torsion trucks like eXates are the surfiest. I like Original Super Carve trucks. They are sort of similar to a torsion truck. They use a spring instead of a bushing, but feel much different from Seismics. Most people that I have discussed trucks with do not think that Seismics are very surfy. They are great for slalom and pumping. They do not turn as tightly as Original trucks. I really like the Originals for carving rail to rail down a steep narrow hill. They let you lean into your turns at up to a 45 degree angle.

The video at www.stik.com is the surfiest skating I have seen since Dogtown and Z boys. It's not the Original trucks. Carveboard has their own spring trucks on the Stik. You said you tried one, right? How is it? I don't think I want one, beacause I like my Original. But I love that video!

Peace
-SS-

 
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On 5/25/2004 North Carolina Longboarder wrote in from (63.167.nnn.nnn)

Silversurfer: (Forget this part) Dogtown and Z Boys! I have the DVD! Matter of fact, every time my 15 year old daughter has one of her friends from school over and they mention to me that they skateboard I loan it to them to see where it all began! That style of skating is exactly what we tried so desperately back in the 70's to emulate! We even had a friend that was into photography that followed us a around with a camera like a Skateboarder Mag shutterbug. I have a photo album of many of the pictures from back then of me and my boys doing layed out Bert slides, riding ditches, freestyling, riding ramps, bombing hills that had these big turns, etc.

As far as the seismics I have ridden them once. I have been talking with Jeff at Bozi Boards about a new board and he suggested I try the metal seismics with a 45 degree front and 30 degree rear. What trucks feel more surfy to you? Randalls?

 
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On 5/25/2004 North Carolina Longboarder wrote in from (63.167.nnn.nnn)

Silversurfer: Dude, thanks for the info and websites. I actually have ridden a Stik and though it takes a little getting use to because of the way it always rails. The run we make twice a year down Highway 421 from near Boone to North Wilkesboro (4.5 mile run that is 4 lanes wide, has an 8% grade, no median and winds down a mountain) always includes mostly guys riding those big ass carving boards but one of them has a Stik. I am the only one that rides a skateboard.

My 46" is set up very loose for turning deep carves and it is more "surfy" feeling to me. I run my 38" more like a pool or park board pretty tight because often times I ride it where the transitions in and out of parking lots are sometimes rough, or in spaces where I need to kickturn, or jump curbs.
When I ride the 46" it is all about style. The board is real fast but for me it is just sweet just to carry speed through a long carve. For the 421 run I tighten the trucks a bit because the first 400 meters or so of the run is closer to a 10% grade and you pick up a lot of speed really fast.
Thanks for all of the website links. It will give me something to look at while I am on hold today waiting to talk to clients and candidates (I am executive recruiter and basically talk on the phone all day long!)

Roll on Brothers and Sisters! Roll on! Roll on!

 
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On 5/24/2004 silversurfer wrote in from (24.62.nnn.nnn)

NCL - which is more surfy feeling to you the 38" or the 46"? I love my 43" but I am thinking of going with a 36" for my next board.

if you are into the surf skate type thing check these out;

www.stik.com - check out the video, awesome surf style

www.originalskateboards.com - check out the 43" Freestyle, I own this board and it is awesome. Very surfy feel. Uses spring loaded trucks..very different from seismics. I put 75a Gumballs on mine. Great wheels.

Bozi boards and Seismics are great, too. But I don't really consider that a very "surfy" set up. Have you ever ridden seismics?

Also, have you seen "Dogtown and Z boys"? Awesome surf style.

-SS-

 
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On 5/24/2004 North Carolina Longboarder wrote in from (63.167.nnn.nnn)

Silversurfer:
Well, my two boards I been riding the most lately are a 38" Think Longboard that is basically set up like a oversized pool board except for the 65 mm Green Kryptonics and a Dregs 46" with red Kryptonics. I am saving my money now (read embezzeling from the "family fund" ha ha) for a Mad Bomber II extra stiff by Jeff at BoziBoards. Its a 44.5" cutaway front and after talking with Jeff I am probably going to go with his set-up:With Metal Seismics (180mm, 30° stable rear, 45° degree quick turn front) and Abec11 Gumballs. I have talked to a couple of people via the net that have an MB II and they love them.
For me, its just about making as long a run as I possibly can and working the board through carves, turns, and body positions that emulate surfing.

Roll on Brothers and Sisters! Roll on! Roll on!

 
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On 5/24/2004 silversurfer wrote in from (24.62.nnn.nnn)

NCL - a time warp back to our skate youth, yeah that's it! Exactly.

MissouriMatt - you said you dreamed of "flying just above the ground and controlling my direction by moving my feet and leaning".

That flying feeling is what I crave about skating. That exact sensation that you described from your dream, that is what I am trying to achieve when I skate.

Have any of you tried the lighted riser pads (flux?) for night skating? What kind of skateboard equipment are you using now for soul skating?

-SS-

 
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On 5/24/2004 doggeh wrote in from (66.235.nnn.nnn)

stay lo...stay loose

 
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On 5/24/2004 North Carolina Longboarder wrote in from (63.167.nnn.nnn)

Silversurfer: That is exactly what I am talking about. Soul skating is just that..a time warp back to where it all began for each of us.
I am glad that there is a forum like this for all to share their thoughts!

Roll on Brothers and Sisters! Roll on!

 
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On 5/22/2004 silversurfer wrote in from (24.62.nnn.nnn)

I'm 41 and just started skating again last year, after being inspired by the "Dogtown and Z Boys" movie. It brought back some old, strang feelings. Now skating reconnects me with my old inner child of the seventies.

I originally started skating in the mid '70's and Skateboarder Magazine was my bible. Also, skated some in the mid '80's while studing at Northeastern University in Boston. Unfortunatley, I gave my boards to my younger brother a decade ago.

Now, I am into soul skating on my longboards. Now, Concrete Wave is my bible and NCDSA is my communicator.

My kids ages 10, 6, and 4 skate with me, sometimes. We cruise and carve up and down the neiborhood. The neibhors think I'm crazy.

Have not tried night skating yet but it sounds cool, will most likey try it tonight after everyone hits the sack.

 
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On 5/20/2004 North Carolina Longboarder wrote in from (63.167.nnn.nnn)

It is cool to think that when I am rolling through my North Carolina sleepy town somewhere on this planet there are others doing the very same thing!

Roll on Roll on my brothers and sisters! Roll on!

 
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On 5/20/2004 MissouriMatt wrote in from (128.206.nnn.nnn)

There is no better skate in my opinion than the empty street skate. Particularly late at night. That was my routine 3 to 7 nights a week for several years. I need to start charging out the door again at 10:30 when the wife gets sleepy.

Scott, North Carolina Longboarder, all... ride on.

 
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