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Slalom Starter Kit flanges
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On 9/1/2001 Adam
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I concur with JD and GBJ. We don't want slalom to get a reputation as a injury-prone sport for something that's easily avoidable.
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Slalom Starter Kit
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On 9/1/2001
GBJ
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I have always been in favor of a slalom starter kit, and am excited to see that Jack has made the dream a reality. My only question is whether any effort will be made to remove the flange on those cones before you sell them to a slalom beginner. It may take additional effort, and depending on how it was done might leave the final product looking, initially, somewhat less commercially-professional, but if you've ever caught one of those flanges under a wheel, you know why I'm commenting. On more than one occasion, and several times in the short period before I decided to start cutting them off, I caught that flange under a front wheel (and once under a close cutting rear wheel) and did my low-altitude Superman impression. I absolutely understand how relatively inexpensive those particular cones can be, which makes them ideal for keeping down the cost on a starter package. I just don't want to get people started by giving them an experience of just how painful it can be when your board comes to a complete halt in the middle of a slalom run.
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Turner Downhill email
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On 9/1/2001
Turner Downhill
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We've had a few reports of bounced emails from sales@turnerdownhill.com. If you can't get through, please forward your original message as well as a copy of your bounced message (so we can diagnose the problem) to hgordon@surveyor.com. Sorry for the trouble.
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slalom starter kit
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On 9/1/2001 J.D.
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That starter kit shown listed below is a great deal ,for anyone wanting to dive into this slalom thing. beleive me I 've spent alot of money recently on dekcs ,trucks wheels ...all happy with my purchaces , but the starter kit would have been alot easier. (just make sure you cut off the square edges on those cones...trust me) -JD
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Turner Downhill
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On 9/1/2001
Steve Church
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Fantastic news of the Turner comeback.
Just thought I'd let you guys know at Turner Downhill that my email order sent to your sales address keeps being returned undelivered - please check and contact me. In the meantime I've put order in mail. THANKS
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The Slalom Starter Kit
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On 8/31/2001
Chris Chaput
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I think the kit is a great deal. Heck, the board and trucks alone are worth it. Since I'm "honor bound" to ride Abec 11s, I might just put some on this setup and run it in Cambria this weekend. It's definitely more competitive than what I'm currently riding in slalom.
Whether you go for a great deal on a ready made product like this, or painstakingly find and put together a custom slalom board for yourself, I hope you get a chance to come out run some cones with the gang. There is a great group of guys leading the rebirth of this exciting sport and a lot of fun for kids of all ages (I'm 40 and my daughter is 2). Now all you need is "Slalomers Pump Harder" bumpersticker.
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Slalom Starter Kit
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On 8/31/2001
The Slalom Guy
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Now Available - Slalom Starter Kit
Perfect for newbie or intermediate slalomers.
Cambered six ply maple deck
Full grip tape coverage
Seismic 135mm Trucks
65mm x 78A clear wheels
ABEC 3 Bearings
6 Cones
Instructional Videotape
99.00
For more information or to order:
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Combo To Go
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On 8/31/2001
Chris Chaput
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I have an idea.
Maybe some should work with John Gilmour in developing an awesome slalom wheel that takes a standard spacer, put them on a set of quick responding Seismic Trucks and integrate these components perfectly with a new Turner Slalom Deck and smoke every other product on the market.
Just a thought. See ya at booth 142.
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8mm longskate
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On 8/31/2001 Duane
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The spacers I got from Longskate measure 0.314 in, or almost exactly 8mm. Fit the Krypto race hub perfect (same hub on most no-name 76mm, too), but too wide for the Strada / Gravity hub.
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Turner Downhill
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On 8/31/2001
Team Turner
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Bob is back ! Turner Downhill, Inc just opened shop last week, and board production has begun. Two classic models - the fullnose and cutaway - will be offered initially in soft (120-140lb), medium (150-170lb), stiff (180-210lb) and extra stiff (220+lb) flex; colors: yellow, white, red and green. These models are priced at $250.
We will also be offering the Blackbird as a full custom race model at $375, but some design changes are in the works, so we won't be accepting Blackbird orders for at least a few weeks.
If you contacted John Gilmour in June about a Turner board order, please confirm your order by contacting sales@turnerdownhill.com for details (we've already heard from many of those orders). If you're attending ASR in San Diego next week, please visit with us at Booth 142.
Thanks
The Turner Team
www.turnerdownhill.com
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Springy thingies.
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On 8/31/2001 PCB
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Which retailers are gonna have Seismics today (Friday Aug. 31st)?
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.300" Spacers
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On 8/30/2001 Misterbill
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Comet is going to get these in bulk, maybe even package them with the wheels(Hint, Hint) I am sure you NorCal guys can get them from one of us.
In SoCal and the Web, Marc at Longskate has them, but they are listed as 8mm. They are the exact same ones I run in my Stradas and Quadskate wheels.
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re: 7.62mm bearing spacers
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On 8/30/2001
Dan / Seismic
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Let me suggest that you think of these as 0.300-inch spacers. It might be easier to get precision work done that way.
There's probably a skate supply house somewhere that stocks these... It is one of 2 - 3 bearing-spacer standards long used in the quad roller-skate world.
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Durometer
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On 8/30/2001 Duane
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Rebound is more important than durometer (hardness). the rubber I used to race would measure about 82A, but would drop to around 72A when treated and heated. However, rebound would increase by 15 to 20% after treating and heating. This would subtract over 5% from a course time, top speed increase of almost 20%. Rebound is everything.
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Spacer
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On 8/30/2001 Duane
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old bearing inner race 0.275 in, stock Indy speed ring, 0.30 in, add 'em up and you get 0.305 in, close enough for me at $0.00. I have stradas and some Gravity Street G's set up this way, no problems.
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7.62mm spacer
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On 8/30/2001
hc
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adam or anyone with access to a machine shop in the bay area, I think we all need those spacers for our stradas.
Can someone get a whole batch done, I want a bunch.
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Abec 11 72a
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On 8/30/2001
Chris Chaput
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David, Believe me when I tell you that 72 is a low number and does appear on paper to be too soft, but on asphalt that compound is an amazing beast. I recommend that it be used in wheels where there is a high hub-to-wheel ratio such as the 74mm wheel with the 50mm core and the 92mm wheel with the 70mm core. There is only 11 to 12mm of urethane on those hubs and so it doesn't deform badly. It absorbs vibration well and has excellent traction. It will wear down faster but hey, you can rotate the Flywheels to reverse the effects of coning and they last longer than the other guy's wheels anyway. The following 18 wheel combinations will provide something for everyone. All of the below are 52mm wide, centerset wheels.
Wheel, Hub, Durometer, Urethane Depth
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74, 50, 72a, 12
74, 50, 75a, 12
74, 50, 78a, 12
83, 50, 72a, 16.5
83, 50, 75a, 16.5
83, 50, 78a, 16.5
92, 50, 72a, 21
92, 50, 75a, 21
92, 50, 78a, 21
101, 50, 72a, 25.5
101, 50, 75a, 25.5
101, 50, 78a, 25.5
92, 70, 72a, 11
92, 70, 75a, 11
92, 70, 78a, 11
101, 70, 72a, 15.5
101, 70, 75a, 15.5
101, 70, 78a, 15.5
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Gravity 7mm Bearing Spacers
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On 8/30/2001 Adam
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A recent thread in the Wheels forum identified the Strada hub as taking a 0.300" spacer which equates to 7.62mm, which is actually closer to 8mm. I had some 8mm spacers milled down to 0.300" for my Stradas and they are *perfect*. Running 8mm spacers in Stradas leaves a minute amount of slop as the hub can slide back and forth on the bearing stack. 7mm spacers, I think, would put undue side pressure on the bearings.
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Gravity 7mm Bearing Spacers
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On 8/30/2001
Michael
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To make 7mm bearing spacers:
Take apart any old bearing. (sheilds, balls, everything) Use the inside race. It's 7mm wide.
Quicker, Easier, Cheaper... than ordering.
We ALL have old bearings laying around.
Cheers,
Michael
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Gravity Bearing Spacers
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On 8/30/2001
Michael @ Gravity
wrote in from
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Now, now, settle down with the name calling... No reason to get upset over bearing spacers. Just because our team guys (who would love to skate with you, by the way) don't use them, doesn't mean that it's the law, or that YOU can't use them, or that we're poorly funded. If you call someone and ask them a for an opinion, you can't just bash their answer. I can't change what our team guys do, and they all skate better than most of us, so listen to them, it might help. It's not wise to say that someone doesn't know how to go fast or how to turn because they don't use spacers. (Tony Hawk doen't use them) If you think that they help, use them. We won't bash you for it. In fact we'll help you get ahold of them. The reason why they are 7mm is because the hub is from the Hyper Strada, which gets some pretty good un-biased respect on this site. Gravity tries hard to help out the longboard community by offering products that few to no one else does. You should be grateful for every single person/company that makes gear for the longboard community, because it's a true labor of love, not money.
Ride on. With or without spacers, it's YOUR choice. ;-)
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Gravity Team wheel setup
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On 8/30/2001 PSR
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That 'someone at Gravity' is foolish.Use spacers,especially if you're riding wuith any speed,or turning.And I thought Gravity made longboards,not shortboard kickflippers,which would seem to indicate that their boards would be ridden with some added speed,and likely be turned at said speed.Maybe the 'team riders' don't go that fast,or know how to turn?Or,they're so poorly funded that they can't get bearing spacers(of the right size,even?)for their factory rides! Ah,I'd better stop now,as the poison sarcasm is starting to leak from my pen onto my keyboard...
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abec 11
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On 8/29/2001
david
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chris, first off let me say that i have some of your wheels and they rock!...my question would be with the softer compounds like 72a, is'nt that almost to soft? does the wheel deform at all because of the softness of the 'thane?
one pleased customer
david
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Abec 11 in Seattle
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On 8/29/2001
Chris Chaput
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Herbn asks: "Did Chaput use the available 83mm or a set of proto 92/101 to put 3 mph on the rest?"
Answer: Due to the rough conditions, I used the 83mm wheel in the soon to be released 75a formula. It is amazing how fast a soft wheel can be. The absorbtion of vibration is key in rougher conditions or when there isn't a lot of urethane on the hubs like in Turbos, 74mm Abec 11s or the 92mm Abec 11s with the 70mm hub. The 72a formula is so lively and grippy and smooth that it doesn't feel fast. Time trial testing has proven otherwise. Look for the softer compounds sometime soon. The testing is over. 72a, 75a and 78a will be the formulas for sale. I'm hoping within the next month.
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Gravity Wheels (Spacers)
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On 8/29/2001
Mathew
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Someone at Gravity says that all the gravity wheels take a 7mm spacer. He also said that all their team riders don't use spacers. They tighten the nut till snug, then back it off just till they get a little wheel wiggle.
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