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8mm spacers
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On 11/17/2000 roger
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Got to a rollerskate shop, 8mm are their standard spacer.
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power paws
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On 11/17/2000 Relic
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Hugh r, you are right about different results from the same wheels. Back when I was riding rough asphalt hills in Virginia, the 70mm/74a Kevlar hubs were the stickiest wheels I owned. Now, on the smooth flat roads of Florida, running the Virtual Slalom course described under the Slalom category, the paws are tearing away on every turn. Since my weight and looks haven’t changed much, I’ll assume it’s the surface or the riding style.
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narrow spacers
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On 11/17/2000 Relic
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I've tried the inside of some ruined China Bones as narrow spacers, but they were only 7mm wide, and I needed to add some truck washers to make them fit snug. If you try this be sure to use wide washers, not speed rings, since the speed rings can shift around inside the hub if you change wheels a lot.
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Krypto Hawaii 70mm
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On 11/16/2000 tn
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Nobody ever mentions these wheels. I love them. Accelarate considerably faster than Classic 70mm and slide with a bit more control. Anybody else out there have anything to say aboutthis wheel which has become one my favorites.
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ad-hoc narrow spacers
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On 11/16/2000 Pre-School Rider
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Rickbeme,get together 4 dead or dying bearings,slap 'em in a vise,use a punch + hammer(wear safety glasses + Duck)to punch out the centers.Clean those up,and you've got 8mm spacers.
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narrow core kkryptonics
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On 11/16/2000
Mike G
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i belive the kryptonic route series are the one with a narrow core. i was just making sure the classics dont have the narrow core because i have a set of routes and i got no spacers for them.
--mike g
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aluminators
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On 11/16/2000 DT
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When They were first released there were a handful of sets that came apart. These wheels were put under very extreme conditions. According to Power Paw, they were contaminated by the workers who were pouring the urethane (human error) and there have not been any reports since then. You should have nothing to worry about, personally if your going to be riding them over speeds of 50mph or doing slides above 40 mph then i would keep an eye on them after each run. Then again YOU SHOULD ALWAYS KEEP AN EYE ON YOUR WHEELS AND BEARINGS AFTER HIGH SPEED RUNS!
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aluminators
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On 11/16/2000 clayton
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what about the urethane pealing off the alu hub; MYTH or sad REALITY?
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spacers for kryptos again
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On 11/16/2000
Rickbeme
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I have a set of narrow kryptos with plastic core, like the ones the guy mentions on the "vintage gear" board as being for auction on Ebay. I find that standard spacers are to long for these wheels. The bearings will not seat down into the cores using standard spacers. The guys at my local shop are stumped. They suggested gringing standard ones down. I didn't buy that as I would think the spacers would need to be square. Why are these non-standard? Are they actually rollerskate wheels? I would appreciate any ideas on how to solve this problem. Thanks!
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spacers 4 Kryptos
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On 11/16/2000 GL
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kryptonic classics use the common 10mm spacers. get them at any skate shop, or in a package of swiss or china bones bearings.
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Kryptonic clasics
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On 11/15/2000
Mike G
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I am planing on getting kryptonic classics 70mm. and i was curious what size bearing spacer is needed for these wheels? Thanks a lot
-----Mike G
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aluminators
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On 11/15/2000
hugh r
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If the problem is only on one wheel then it sounds like there might be an aluminum burr that needs to be removed. Feel with your finger to make sure that the surfaces are perfectly smooth. When you find the burr remove it with something SOFTER than the hub (a small wood/plastic stick works well)
If the problem is on all 4 wheels, then it's sounding like the problem might be with your bearings. I know, I know...
But try new ones anyways.
If that doesn't work... get a second set of eyes on the problem before you call foul. Then give the guys a longskate.com an e-mail and give them a chance to make it right... HR
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aluminators
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On 11/15/2000
burns
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the problem isn't sliding them in, i can do that (i use speed cream). the bearings won't go all the way in. they stop slightly short of sitting all of the way in the hub. is this normal? i assumed that you would want both bearings to touch the spacer. maybe not.
burns
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RE:Aluminator hub
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On 11/15/2000
glens
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Saliva works for me.
Of course, I only do this on my personal bearings and wheels
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RE: Aluminator hub
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On 11/15/2000 DT
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try putting a very lite coating of butter on the outside of the bearing (not the shields), it will slide right in and the film of butter should evaporate. do it before you go to bed, so its not oily when you go riding because it will attract dirt.
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Power Paws hub
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On 11/15/2000
Danny Connor
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Hey Burns,
To get my bearings to go into the aluminum hub, I make sure that the seat is totally clean. I use something like laquer thinner, brake cleaner, or chemtool to clean it out too. Also, right before I stick the bearing in, I'll put a very thin layer of motor oil or something right on the lip to help it slide in better. You might also want to sand the seat with very fine sandpaper to get any leftovers from machineing. Goood luck!
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aluminators
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On 11/15/2000
burns
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i can't seem to get my bearings seated in my new aluminators. is this a common problem? if so, what can i do?
burns
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power paws
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On 11/14/2000
hugh r
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Relic,
I own 4 sets of power paws and they all ride a little different from each other. The stickiest I own are the kevlar core 70mm 74a's. The ones I've gone the fastest on are the kevlar core 70mm 78a's.
The two coolest looking, while still being pretty damn stick inspite of the big hub, are the aluminators (orange and white)
But what you will find is that those of us who have them tend to have some varied experiences as to which stick/slide/glide the best... Might have to do with weight and good looks! HR
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turbo/paws
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On 11/14/2000 Relic
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I know it’s obvious, but while the turbo is a distinct wheel, power paws are a complete line of wheels that come in different sizes, hardness, and with different cores. I’ve only tried the 70mm, 74a, small core paws, and I would expect the other varieties would have somewhat different characteristics.
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Speed Tests
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On 11/13/2000 Herbn
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All right Todcar!or is that Tod? a speed test with numbers,they sound about correct.Now do the same with Swiss and China Bones,i wish there was someone to help me test bearings ,i'd be all over it!I'd do it by myself if i had one of those digital signs the cops have,or at least a smaller version of one:)
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2 niches filled
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On 11/12/2000 todcar
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These wheels fill their own niche while overlapping into each others as well.
Speed - Turbos. At Dump rd. I found a 4 mph difference in speed when I swapped them out. 34 mph for the 74a paws and 38.5 for the turbos. That hill is a 45-50 max hill (backwind). SO you could take either wheel faster.
Grip: They are both super grippy with the turbos having a "waxy" as opposed the more "rubbery" grip of the paws. You may be surprised to find that they both slide easily when going more than 12-15mph. I find the turbos slightly more predictable though harder to break loose. The Paws can "break" quickly and then they will slide faster, and with less chatter than the turbos.
Size: They are equally quick on the push. The Turbo's larger size makes for a slower initial roll, but so does the softer 'thane of the paw.
summary: they are both great wheels. My paws are aluminators and they are the smoothest, most controllable wheels I own. The turbos (I have 2 sets) are great for doing the same things as the paws but a little faster, a little grip.
I find that the core of the turbos and the aluminatorss keeps them from coning as quickly as non-core wheels also.
Wow, I must have a lot of free time.
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Turbos
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On 11/11/2000 fh
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TUrbos rock. They accellerate very fast. The core helps keep their weight down for a wheel of its size. A bit rough but I ind them an awesome all around wheel.
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Paws vs. Turbos
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On 11/11/2000
Danny Connor
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Both Wheels are pure longboarding joy!
I love my Turbos, they are fast and only let go if I want them to. I raced with these wheels at Barrett for stand-up, and they were great. The ride is a little more bumpy, due to not as much 'thane, and a big hub, but that enables them to fly. In some cases, they are just as fast as the cherrys. Power Paws are a tasty wheel too. They encompass all I like in a wheel, they are fast(I have taken them faster than most people would like to go with exkates), they grip like crazy, but slide with a little encouragement. At least you don't have to worry about them getting away from you, and that is what it is all about. I like both of them for carves and slides, but that isn't saying much. I'd have fun if you gave me a wal-mart wonder and a steep hill!! Have fun!!
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paws/turbos
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On 11/11/2000
hugh r
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This is one of those "which is better? apples or oranges?" type questions.
Both companies make very fine wheels. The application are completely different.
The exkates are faster... the power paws are smoother and grip better. (smoother on the rough surfaces that is)
So the choice needs to be made on how your going to ride them. If you want speed on fairly smooth surfaces, the exkates will nicely fill the bill. If the surfaces get rougher and you still want some speed, I like the 78a paws. If acceleration is not necessary, the 74a paws are pure sticky joy! If you need to kick out big rocks and go fast, look at the bombs or m-80's...
Better yet, buy both and you'll be set for most situations that come up.
My two cents... HR
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exkates & paws
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On 11/11/2000 Relic
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The Turbos are faster and the ride is harsher, while the 74a paws grip better. I’d go with the paws on a steep hill to control speed or for really deep carves. Otherwise, for most other situations I’d (and I do) use Turbos.
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