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Red Avila's
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On 7/8/2007
munchh
wrote in from
United Kingdom
(217.44.nnn.nnn)
Can anyone confirm that the solis red Avila's from 3DM are the same duro 73a, as the clear reds they now do, cant seem to find the old solid red colour ones?
cheers
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hawgs
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On 7/5/2007 malcolm
wrote in from
Canada
(24.84.nnn.nnn)
im about 100% positive that landyachtz doesnt pour any wheels
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Grip wheels
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On 7/4/2007 Michael
wrote in from
United States
(71.55.nnn.nnn)
I like the Grippens. Just trying to determine if they might be best suited for warm concrete, as compared to the ZigZags, for critical traction banked speed/slalom.
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Hawgs/Grippins
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On 7/4/2007 Shane
wrote in from
New Zealand
(203.109.nnn.nnn)
Thanks mate.
On a side note, the last i heard the guys at landyachtz had in fact bought the mould for those Hawgs wheels off Kryptonics, but as part of the deal still had to produce a certain amount of the wheels with the Krpto name on them.
So in fact a set of kryptos (which in fact the wheels i had were) is actually made my landyachtz...kinda weird huh?
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Hawgs/ Grippens and the Lineage
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On 7/3/2007 PSR
wrote in from
United States
(75.69.nnn.nnn)
Well, yeah, Hogs come from Bravo/Krypto, and as such, won't be any faster than Kryps from 1982.
ABEC 11/ Pink/ Retro wheels are faster, no doubt. 3DM/Seismic wheels are too.
Given that you're looking at two differing Sizes, I'd still put odds on a 70mm Pink or Retro for speed against a Hawg. Grippens are fast for 70mm, and are easily improved upon for speed (as are Flashbacks) by trimming 5-8 mm of width off, though traction may suffer some (depends on lip shaping, and width and durometer). Whether they'll outrun a bigger Hawg, I can't say, but they will, stock, outcorner a Hawg, and still run fairly fast. Durometer is a key player here, so keep that in mind. ABEC 11 does let you find that 'perfect' hardness for your backyard, probably better than anyone else does.
Striker are Fast, but have two (small) strikes against them. One is the midsized core, which compared with something like Gumballs or Big-Zigs, does take a little out of the ride quality, Still that's not exactly a dis, as that larger core is really good at keeping the bearings in-line, and gives a positive feel in traction. The wheel's rounded corner/lip shape is another 'detraction', though it also serves a purpose. When Strikers first came out, I had hoped for an angled (like a RoadRider HH) lip. But instead, C.C. went with a radiused lip as to let the wheel slide as needed..So, it's not really an issue unless you're looking for really high gription limits.
Other big wheels to look at: SpeedVents(pick your size/Duro), Big-Zigs (love them!!), Gumballs(still a Fave), and the 72mm Pink Polka-Dot. Any of these will Toast a Krypto.
I used to ride for Kryptonics, when they were in Co. still. My old, 70's vintage Kryptos easily run with any new wheel they've made, except (because of size differential,imho) the 76mm luge Racecore (is it still called a 'Racecore', or did the Lawyers change that?). I've got 72mm largecores from '81 or so that I still use for giggles, just because they are kinda fast, but 66mm Zig-Zags or 68mm HotSpots will toast them even in a straight run, nevermind around a corner. Go with the new Longboard wheel guys like ABEC 11 or Seismic, leave the RollerBlading to Bravo/Krypto.
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Which wheels... ABEC GRIPPINS vs LANDYACHTZ HAWGS??
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On 7/3/2007 Shane
wrote in from
New Zealand
(203.109.nnn.nnn)
Hi, ive been riding a landyachtz dropwedge board with 76mm 78a HAWGS wheels, but i have found them pretty slow, you really feel like there is some resistance especially when pushing and cruising at slower speeds. I have the option to swap them for some 81a GRIPPINS, what is anyone's advice. I had some 81a 76mm STRIKERS which were super fast, and i have heard good things about the GRIPPINS, but was just a bit worried that their wider contact patch and lack of hub might make them a bit slow as well? I do use this board for some serious hills every now and then, but for the most part im pushing and cruising it around more mellow hills, so i am really looking for something that rolls fast and smooth in those conditions....???
Any advice anyone can give me would be hugely appreciated.
P.S. I love my landyachtz boards, they are some of the coolest out there, but i was a bit dissapointed with the HAWG wheels. I thought with their big hub and narrow contact patch they would be pretty fast, but they turned out to be pretty slow. Has anybody else had a similar experience with these wheels??
thanks
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juan carillo...small wheels, just for you
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On 7/1/2007
Kai
wrote in from
United States
(71.75.nnn.nnn)
look on www.tailtap.com, greastest site for wheels as far as i know
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Big Zig's vs Flywheels
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On 6/25/2007
Bob
wrote in from
United States
(76.106.nnn.nnn)
Has anyone actually roll tested Zig vs Flys for speed on luge? I am sold on the grip of the new Zigs, but need to know if I will suffer any top speed loss over the 78a 83mm Flywheels. Im sure luge will grind the piss out out of the Zigs over a 2 day event through crash corner so if I go that way I may need spares.
bob
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Some Guy pulling my Leg from Wyoming
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On 6/18/2007 PSR
wrote in from
United States
(75.69.nnn.nnn)
Paul, have Scott build low a long-ended LowLand, get it rolling on three trucks, see what happens!
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Grippen/Zig-Zag
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On 6/18/2007 PSR
wrote in from
United States
(75.69.nnn.nnn)
C.M., the Grippen is the 'softer' feeling of the two (though clear-red Zigs are pretty plush), the Zigs are usually bumped up a few durometer points, as they're very sticky. This isn't to say the Grippen isn't sticky, it is, and for longer, drawn-out carves, it's very 'readable', letting you know it's near the traction limit (they have detractors in Slalom, mostly because of the relative quickness + intensity of a Slalom turn, so some racers blow right past the grip-limit). The Zig-Zag is faster, and can ridden at a slightly higher duro (80A) and still keep a good grip. If 78A is where you want to be, ride-wise, is Red the better color for you?
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downhill wheels
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On 6/18/2007
dave
wrote in from
United States
(71.102.nnn.nnn)
what is the best wheel for overall downhill speed riding? i want to do turns, slides, and have a very fast top speed. thanks. -dave
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Longboarding Wheel
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On 6/18/2007 C.M.
wrote in from
United States
(74.141.nnn.nnn)
I am about to get the Landyachtz top wedge lightweight deck with some Bear trucks, But I can't decide between Abec 11 Grippins or Abec 11 Retro Zig Zags in 78a. I will be doing some carving, cruising, and a little bombing on these. Which wheel is smoother and which is grippier. Any Suggestions?
Thanks a ton.
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Thanks PSR
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On 6/16/2007 Pauliwog
wrote in from
United States
(65.122.nnn.nnn)
Hey PSR, I was/am "Some Guy from Wyoming". Thanks for the info but the post you answered was something I entered to "give Chaput the business". I'm not anti-Chaput nor anti-6wheeler but I posted that mostly because I got tired of the whole debate and I wore out my ability to harass Chaput about the bushings he continues to NOT make for the rest of us to replace the venerable Tracker Stimulator(a moment of silence please). Otherwise you brought up some good useful info. Some day I might put one together. Adios- Paul Howard
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6 wheel mix/match
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On 6/10/2007 PSR
wrote in from
United States
(75.69.nnn.nnn)
SomeGuy in Wyoming, you can mix + match as you choose, and I'd even encourage it, to a point. Beware of these issues though; Wheel clearance through the Entire range of truck steering; Wheel sizes. You want to be pretty close in sizing(a few millimeters apart, like 68mm+70mm), unless you're willing to put in some extra time playing with risers/wedges to 'shim' to the right height; Trucks should be pretty similar at the place you're doubling up (IE, RTX + Indy, or, RTS and Tracker Gnarly/Madrid Invader. NOT Bennett and RTS combo. Too much difference in turn lean/steer ratio will make for wheel scrub, maybe even unwanted wobbles); Trucks should have similar bushing kits in term of size, put can vary considerably in hardness of bushings; Board flex causes some issues in which wheel set is in contact on cambered (or rockered) boards. Try for all 6 wheels touching under weight of rider + some light downforce on the board.
At Ascutney yesterday, it was enlightening to see just how many Lugers have gone to 6 wheels for increased traction, stability and control. Some even had 'dualie' wheel set-ups with 4 wheels per axle. This sport has advanced Seriously in a few short years! Axles, trucks, wheels, sled designs (especially in ergonomics,crash safety), all due IMHO, to the Freedom Of Choice allotted with the ISGA rules to run 'what works', not be pidgeon holed into a dead-end of stagnated thought due to some pre-disposed bias. I didn't race (Would've loved to!!), but I did leave my '81 vintage woodie luge (*w/ btw, 6 Gumballs on it) out for racers and spectators to look over. Nice, too, to see that "IF" it passed tech inspection, it'd be allowed to race again.
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fittings for fly wheel
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On 6/8/2007
nickooo
wrote in from
United States
(74.69.nnn.nnn)
i'm thinking about getting new wheels for my sector 9 chopes 2. Will 97mm fly wheels fit onto my board with a 1/2 inch riser pad and 10" revenge trucks?
thanks
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JesterJay's wheel choices
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On 6/7/2007 PSR
wrote in from
United States
(75.69.nnn.nnn)
JesterJay, if you're looking for 'same size' wheels with more grip, speed and smoothness, look into ABEC 11 No Skools in a Soft durometer, 78A or 75A. In that same size class, but faster, stickier, maybe not as smooth (though close) would be the 'Clear Red' 66mm ZigZag from Retro;This is a Slalom Wheel, squared-off edges and such, so banks, curbs, and casual slides are not their forte...In that size class, but taller (almost 70mm) would either 3DM/Seismic Avalon or HotSpot. Both are available in 80A,78A, and 76/75A; Very sticky, fast, smooth, but not really forgiving if you slide. Tunnel is making the old 'Tunnel Rock' shape, very fat Slalom-like flatbacked wheel, and it's available in 82A(amber), 78A(clear red), and 75A(clear blue). BDS also does some neat wheels in soft 78A, my fave being the Shogo/Dragon conical, which is FaT, but with a conical back for no-catch grinds. :-)
If you can go a bit bigger, say 70mm or 72 mm, there's ABEC 11's Flashback (very versatile shape, borrows elements from some of the best 70's/80's wheels) and Grippen, Pink's 7-ohs and 72mm Powerballs, Retro's 70mm ZigZag, even the softest version of the Manx from PocketPistol(pink in color,I think).
Satori (which uses Kryptonics urethane) and Landyatchz also have a few good dh/cruiser wheels, as do Sector 9 and Gravity (though Gravity has the large core, a little less 'plush' in ride quality.
Lastly, I'll toss in Kryptonics, but I'm not a fan of their stuff anymore, as better wheels designs made for Skateboards instead of Rollerskates have surpassed their 20 year old design philosphy (Even the stuff that borrows heavily from the 1970's! Because it's Skateboarding, not quadskating...Bravo/Krypto has sadly forgotten what it once was).
Keep the overall shape in mind, and suit it to your riding style. If you like quick, sharp turns, pumping, or bombing, Slalom oriented wheels will do fine for you.
If you ride curbs, banks, or even just 'play' on street-inspired obstacles, look for a raduised proflies and/or even concical backs. No Skools or Bulldogs (BDS) is where that's at.
If you're not sure, then the Flashback will do most everything well, and not hold you back anywhere, except in ollie-kickflips (it's heavy, big). My 75A's are one of the fastest wheels in my quiver in the 70mm size class.
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new wheels for crusing
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On 6/7/2007 jesterjay
wrote in from
United States
(67.182.nnn.nnn)
I needed new wheels for my longboard (arbor fish with revenge trucks). I'm fairly new to longboards and I use it to mostly get around my college campus but there are so many potholes and cracks and these default 65mm wheels just don't feel smooth enough for me. Can you guys recommend a nice soft wheel that i wouldn't need to buy a rizer for and can grip well but not lose too much speed. Thanks
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...ertz
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On 6/2/2007
martin siegrist
wrote in from
Switzerland
(83.77.nnn.nnn)
i've tried both vertz and sqwertz. these wheels are fast. i wouldn't want anything else!
mrtn.ch
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Question
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On 5/31/2007 JM
wrote in from
United States
(74.141.nnn.nnn)
Has anybody here tried Abec 11 Retro Skwerts or Retro Vertz? I would like to try them, but 96a sounds a tad bit soft for skateparks.
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small wheels
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On 5/30/2007
juan carillo
wrote in from
United States
(76.4.nnn.nnn)
anybody know where to get wheels as big as the bearings if not a little bit bigger (few mm bigger)????
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75mm ZigZags
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On 5/30/2007
sc
wrote in from
United States
(65.91.nnn.nnn)
I got to spend some time on the new 75mm ZigZags yesterday. Not as if anyone expected anything else, but I can confirm that they totally kick ass.
I ran the 75mm limes through a GS'ish hybrid course that pretty much covers the bases for paces. The wheels gripped like a mofo and were smoking fast. They ripped the course. There was no deficit. I was also able to compare them head to head with the 70mm lime ZigZags, which suddenly felt like little wheels.
I wasn't using a timer, so my impressions are subjective, but I did get some evidence of the speed increase by how much farther I went on the on the uphill runout. I can't wait to get them on the big GS courses at Natures or Boylston.
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copy, Speed Vent?
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On 5/27/2007 I Looks You Looks
wrote in from
United States
(4.246.nnn.nnn)
The Speed Vents are nothing like a Flywheel let alone a copy. A different wheel inside and out, top to bottom. They feel faster and grippier too. Haven't tested them against a clock. Perception only.
Both companies are making great wheels that are totally different. I think any similarities are because both guys making them understands what works - not because they copy each other.
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new wheels galore
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On 5/25/2007 Mike
wrote in from
United States
(24.94.nnn.nnn)
everyone's got new wheels this week! Those new Seismics sound like a Flywheel copy, so they might be really fast. Chaput just released his new Big zig, too. I've been reading about those over on silverfish. They look like the benchmarks for traction are going up again.
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New wheels from Seismic
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On 5/24/2007
Dan Gesmer / Seismic
wrote in from
United States
(71.218.nnn.nnn)
Please see Vendors Corner for announcement regarding new wheel offerings from Seismic. Thanks!
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wheels...
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On 5/23/2007
Sam of NY
wrote in from
United States
(68.193.nnn.nnn)
I knew a guy that didn't use sector 9 wheels on his sector 9 board. remember that, I "knew" a guy.
the wheels don't melt the bearings... it melts the rider!
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