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Cavity
On 9/4/2007 Bob wrote in from United States  (76.106.nnn.nnn)

Derik, I have had the same just once and was sent a new wheel. Email with Chaput or Sk8trip is a bust (they blame it on a spam war) but one phone call should solve the problem.... at least it would in the USA.

Any wheel or products can have defects, the difference may just come down to customer service.

good luck.

 
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Cavities
On 9/4/2007 Speedster wrote in from United States  (70.104.nnn.nnn)

Derik your problem is not an uncommon one nor is the result in trying to make contact with the manufacturer, I'm sure they will show up any minute to denounce this as slander and that you have made all this up and that you doctored the wheel to look as if it was a manufacturers defect. That being said, they will probably come on here and offer you a replacement and blame it on the company that makes the wheels for them.

My suggestion is to switch over to Seismic wheels, guaranteeed to do 114 MPH without defect, they are winning all the big downhill races of late and the customer service is beyond comparision.

Good Luck!

 
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Cavity inside my Flywheel
On 9/3/2007 Derik wrote in from Germany  (193.7.nnn.nnn)

I have a problem with one of my new 76mm, 78A Flywheels. One of them has a huge swirl-like bubble inside, probably one inch long. It looks more like a crevasse under ice than a rond bubble. Or like dry flour swirls in fresh dough.
Compareable to chunked wheels, but without infraction of the outside. When I press it, it will deform a litte and feel like trapped air. The part is softer than the rest of the wheel. I sticked a round-top needle into it and there is no resistance inside the wheel, I can freely move the needle from side to side inside the wheel.

I have ridden the wheel for half an hour only, with a few drifts and slides. Is it possible, that the wheel chunks or delaminates from the inside? Does this come from sliding? None of my flashbacks or pinks show bubbles like that. (Chunking, yes - but never underneath the skin.) Or is this a fault in the material? Is it save to ride the wheel until it delaminates?

Here is a picture of it, but its hard to capture. In the picture it just looks like a white spot, but when I turn the wheel under light, I can see the crevasse-like bubble through the translucent green.



I tired to get information about this trough abec11 and sk8trip, but got no answer. Any Ideas?

 
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contolling jet luge
On 9/2/2007 herbn wrote in from United States  (64.12.nnn.nnn)

the problems with bigger wheels and absorbing imperfections ,leads invariably to going with wheels that seem to have a "normal size" with suspension added to the trucks maybe somesort of polymer/carbon leafspring that tries to mold spring and damper into one piece.

 
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Whhhhhheeelllllls
On 9/2/2007 Michael wrote in from United Kingdom  (87.114.nnn.nnn)

Joel did in fact use the white 85mm Seismics. My mistake. Also he probably went 'faster' than 114mph as he was still accellerating through the timing beams.....but all we record was in effect an average over a 100metres.

I would love to see Joel and others in a face off, ideally on both sides of the atlantic. Sponsorship might be easier with a nations pride at stake...(in a good way!)

 
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Jet Drag
On 9/2/2007 Rick F. wrote in from United States  (68.142.nnn.nnn)

Ascutney!

 
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Jetpack
On 9/1/2007 PSR wrote in from United States  (75.69.nnn.nnn)

HC, Yeah!, but at Maryhill, Wash.!! (I'd vote for Okemo, but I'd like survivors as well...)

 
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jet luge
On 9/1/2007 hc wrote in from United States  (71.198.nnn.nnn)

what I want to see...

Bob and Joel
jet luge drag
downhill!!!

 
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High Speed Wheels
On 9/1/2007 Bob wrote in from United States  (76.106.nnn.nnn)

I have ridden my JetLuge over 300 miles (total distance) now on various roads, race tracks and airstrips and I can tell you the biggest reason to use large wheels is to roll over the imperfections in the road. I have gone airborn a few times hitting expansion cracks at high speed. The problem with large massive urethane wheels is that they grow and distort at extremely high RPMs and the heat builds up real fast and destroys the wheels. Not a problem is you are just taking a short straight shot, but wont work for me on the super speedways.

One data point proven at the dragstrip over and over again is that more wheels yield slower speeds and times. One extra truck cost me 1.2 mph in the 1/4 mile. It becomes a choice of top speed vs safety when I select what I am running.

And yes Hat off to Joel.. his is the record since it was recorded proper. I have gone faster, but but don't blab about it much since I am to cheap and lazy to pay for a timing crew. My efforts have been focused on the "show" and entertaining thousands of spectators. The goal was to bring the gravity sports machines to the flat land arenas for people to learn about them. It looks like I need to focus on getting sponsors to support this new Breedlove vs Arfons LSR type drama of a show we now have.

cheers

 
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luge
On 8/31/2007 hc wrote in from United States  (71.198.nnn.nnn)

herbn,

that luge is faired (covered)
so essentially same frontal area
physicswise, gravity vs jet powered, should be no difference..

depending on the surface, rolling resistence might be less with bigger wheels...

 
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Resistance is futile
On 8/30/2007 Michael wrote in from United Kingdom  (87.114.nnn.nnn)

Ok, things that Joels luge can be improved on , possibly.
Frontal area, I shall amputate his feet. The wheel issue though minor could be a factor, though of course Herbs theorys are valid, and welcome.
Position of engine, curently behind his helmet.

Joel will be looking into:

Doubling engines.
Rocket asssist start.
Using afterburners.

And thats not a joke either.

 
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air resistance
On 8/30/2007 herbn wrote in from United States  (64.12.nnn.nnn)

don't you think that on a rocket powered luge bigger wheels will on some level increase the frontal area and more importantly rotating mass, since the power source is not natural(gravity) it'll be slower with bigger wheels.

 
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Joels record
On 8/30/2007 Michael wrote in from United Kingdom  (87.114.nnn.nnn)

Joel used four sets of Randal Luge trucks with floating axles, and the 100 percent ceramic bearings from VXB. The wheels wore evenly, and he only used one set for practice and record attempt.

The smaller speedvent is wider, and your right, testing with biger 85mm is in order, especially as the downhillers seem to love the red formula at the moment.

I think it was because Joel was familiar with the 77mms, and his luge was running smoothely with that set up. And possibly as hes a lazy blighter...swapping 8 wheels on floating axles is a bind.

 
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jet luge
On 8/30/2007 hc wrote in from United States  (71.198.nnn.nnn)

michael, cool clip, pretty impressive...
what trucks was joel running? randals?
were the bushings crank down?

why not bigger wheels?

150mph would be insane...

i just thought of an idea
jet powered recumbent streamliner or jet powered skatecar.

 
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Wheels record
On 8/30/2007 Michael wrote in from United Kingdom  (87.114.nnn.nnn)

Thanks HC, but we are fully aware of where the records stand at the moment. I think its safe to say Joel is currently leading. And Im sure a healthy rivalry will develope, which can only be good for us. Joel was using the 77mm white Speedventrs by the way.
Our time is averaged over two runs, within an hour like the proper records should be. Timed over 100meter seperated beams, and is being verified at the moment.
and our clip is here:
Click here for link


Bob Swartz and the Bluesmoke team from that youtube clip has been in touch to offer his congratulations to Joel, and points out that:
"Just a note on detail Joel smashed the official record of Roland
Morrison's 105mph set last summer at Bonneville salt flats during Speed
Week and plans on 150 "yikes" next month."

 
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g force
On 8/30/2007 hc wrote in from United States  (71.198.nnn.nnn)

http://grandprixskateboards.com/wheels.html

 
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101's
On 8/29/2007 AJ Powell wrote in from Canada  (66.131.nnn.nnn)

looking to buy Abec11 101mm Flywheels
any duro, any generation.
I know alot of speedboarders dont use them, but i'd like them for my street-luge

new or used, but not abused

 
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abec11
On 8/29/2007 hc wrote in from United States  (71.198.nnn.nnn)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bb2yPx38ht0

this guy claims 119mph

 
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114mph
On 8/28/2007 Michael wrote in from United Kingdom  (87.114.nnn.nnn)

Jpoel King recorded 114mph on his jet powered luge yesterday at RAF Bentwater in Suffolk, UK. Using 8 white Speedvents. Wheels coped with surface, speeds and weight extremely well. In fact he used the same set throught practice days and the record attempt.

Thanks to Dan Gesmer for all his suppport, and faith in the attempt. Worlds fastest wheel?

 
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venting
On 8/23/2007 herbn wrote in from United States  (64.12.nnn.nnn)

somebody else mentioned that,about the lettering, the old ones have embossed lettering(old school cool) the newer ones have printed lettering,so i mentioned it mostly because i thought people should know to stick with the newer printed ones in a way it sticks some business people with old product,i'm a retailer but i was actually eyeing the speed vents up as wheels for my own board,they are pricy, they should be perfect,oh well .

 
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Herbns wobbly wheels
On 8/22/2007 JamieM wrote in from Canada  (70.49.nnn.nnn)

Hey Herbn, are the wheels the 77mm ones? If so, I think the problem is related to the moulded lettering(Dan posted this somewhere). Most of the 77mm 'vents I've seen have a wheel or two that is a bit wonky. Doesnt really seem to affect performance much, been up to 65km on them and couldnt feel anything. I do understand what you are saying though. Shouldnt really be your problem, especially for the price. If you notice all the newer bigger wheels(Blast Wave, 85mm Vents) have printed lettering, and the ones I've seen have been very good!

 
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Cortech
On 8/21/2007 Tim wrote in from Australia  (121.210.nnn.nnn)

HC , I think cortech are doing another run of there wheels now. Send a PM to Brandon at Charliedontskate and get your name on the list for when they arrive.
The last run sold out. I think ,although don't quote me , that the new ones will have a few little tweeks to make them even better.
http://www.charliedontskate.com/

 
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cortech
On 8/20/2007 hc wrote in from United States  (71.198.nnn.nnn)

i was looking in CW
dont see the slalom wheel on their site...

http://www.electricurethane.com/aboutE.html

 
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Juicy orange seismics...
On 8/20/2007 Martin wrote in from (78.86.nnn.nnn)

Just found my all-time fave wheel! The new orange 84A Hot Spot. A great duro to use as a front on rougher surfaces or as a rear when the road is smooth. The wheel is lovely to ride,predictable grip, super smooth and in a colour that makes your mouth water! Two of us podiumed at Wasteland on it in its first outing here, with the trusty new blue 76A in the rear. Very cool combo...Looking forward to Grenoble's smooth racetrack and sticking purple 89's on the front with the 84's on the back....should be faaaaast!
Thanks Dan for the hard work!
Martin.

 
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wheels for sale
On 8/19/2007 slim wrote in from United States  (75.61.nnn.nnn)

no, i'm not saying that at all. the process is automated. i was just trying to figure out what you meant by saying "Exactly the same width like that's as wide as the wheel machine can do,and it's the same machine." I suppose some factories might have a limit to how wide of molds they can run through but I was just trying to say that there is no real limit to how wide wheels can be made - just a limit on how wide is practical for us to use on current skate trucks. anyway, two wheels being the same width isn't necessarily evidence that they come from the same factory.

 
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