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Pleasure Tool ABEC 7 shielded
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On 11/21/2001 BoBo
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I was one of the first to laud Pleasure Tool bearings here. I love it when I'm right.
Don't we all?
BoBo
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Pleasure Tools
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On 11/21/2001
Ricky
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Toolz Rulz!
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Pleasure Tools
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On 11/20/2001
Randy
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I too have received excellent customer service from Ed. I Have not had a chance too fully test out the bearings but I am impressed by my initial rides. Customer Service puts a company at the top of my list, and Pleasure Tools is A1 in that category.
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Pleasure Tools
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On 11/20/2001
Attila
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Claude, right on!!! It's been a pleasure dealing with Ed and the company so far- great service and product.
From my experience I don't think that there is anything else out there that can match the quality/price of these bearings.
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PT Bearings
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On 11/20/2001
Claude
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I have not had a chance to try my PT's yet. I will probably not until I run at La Costa. All I can say is that in my 28 yrs of skating I have never been treated so well by a company. Okay, well a few, but they new me.
Ed is showing unbelievable confidence in his products and I am sure if your not satisfied he will make sure you are somehow, someway. His modo could read "Skate Hard, Skate Fast, Skate with Confidence". CER.
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Re: Pleasure Tools on Transition
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On 11/19/2001 Spat
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I'm currently using PT ABEC 5's in the park and am more then pleased in the quality and performance. And like everyone else has stated price and service are nothing short of exceptional. Geez, I can't believe I'm getting this worked up over bearings but I'm stoked to find there are still people out there that want to offer a good product for a good price and like to throw in great service to boot.
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pleasure tools
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On 11/19/2001
Ricky
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Attila's right on! Same experience here. Although I haven't run them as hard as Attila, I haven't noticed any deterioration in smoothness or quiet speed. Ed's got a good product here guys. I'm installing a set of shielded ceramics tonight to run at La Costa. Hope they prove to be as good. If thing go as they have, I'm sure they will.
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pleasure tools
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On 11/19/2001
attila
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Day one; took a set of pleasure tools for full blown spin at the WLAC race today and put down some fast times (incl the fastest time of the day) with them.
They felt faster throughout the day- Bearings usually take a little time to break in properly. Checked them individually after running them all day- as smooth and quiet as fresh. No loose wiggles of the outer ring.
These are well made and seem to hold up well to greater lateral force and movement.
Day two; La Costa......tba
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Pleasure Tools (for ramps/transitions)?
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On 11/18/2001
M. Chandler
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I've read the positive reviews on the Pleasure Tools bearings, but wonder how many of you folks are using them for ramp/transition skating (besides you, Bill H.)?
I'm thinking of going with the ABEC 7 shielded model for general park and ramp use. I'm in Colorado, and unless there's snow on the ground (and I ain't skating), it's very low humidity. I'm 200 pounds, if that matters.
Any feedback is appreciated.
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Fastest
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On 11/18/2001 Duane
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Not to mention the test winner would be the one with the least oil, no oil is fastest until the bearing overheats (provided a real good bearing). I'm not going to listen to anything from Powell regarding bearings, its their profit center right now, way overpriced for what you get. All of the bearings I rode years ago are better than Powell, last much longer.
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Balls
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On 11/17/2001 Herbn
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Ok Ok we REALLY need a physics guy and an accurate as possible bearing test.After hearing about 9 ball bearings(reflex, sin) then 8 ball (harry? reflex ceramic) now all of a sudden Powell has come up with bigger balls is better,6 ball swiss(stronger,quicker,higher top speed blah blah,blah blahblah,,blah. The truth can you handle the truth? new,clean,top level oiled bearings are probabely so close that any number of factors out weighs the tiny bit of extra speed in the bearings.This HAS to be true,follow this logic. If you made thee fastest bearings,i mean really noticably faster than all others you would finance the bearing test to prove it,put it in every media and sell a ton,several tons of bearings;a week? So where's the test? there is no test ,because;;;; there is nothing to be gained, there is nothing to be gained,, because the top 10 ,20 bearings are probabely incredibly close in performance, people would probabely end up buying the ones with the tightest margins,those are not the advertisers,they are not hyped, so the bearing test does not happen, and if it did it would get no coverage.
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toluene
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On 11/17/2001 Herbn
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nasty stuff,work outside is right ,use a ten foot pole while your at it,you read the bottle on that stuff?is it even available in cali,and what are you doing with the dirty toluene after all the rinse and repeats.Flash dry=flash oxidize,i'm still gonna stick with adding extra lube(whatever you choose)then blowing out with air gun,spinning out at 40mph works too and is more fun,then wiping off and add a drop.Stay out of dirt.
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fumes not flames
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On 11/17/2001
adam t
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Toluene is a strong solvent for sure and will get you high if the fumes are not ventilated. I like the succesive bath method, I use this also to some degree. Perhaps I should skip the "kitchen sink" baths and concentrate on preventing the possibility of rust.
Gees, this makes sense to me as I will be skateboarding for a long time to come on top of the years that these bearings have on them. Toluene does sound a bit "cleaner" in that it is highly volatile and would evap with less residue, yeah. I did learn something, cool, thanks.
I searched "bearing cleaning" and there I found some good information. J.Gilmour wrote a little something and I like his method as well. If I am not mistaken, he has used some dental lubricant in the past...
Thanks for posting your information. Bearing cleaning to me is a "ritual" that is sort of a hassle, but as a skater, it is just something you put up with. I can't see the investment in the "seating" going to waste on my old bearings. One set, well, I've had such wonderful slides with, I can't seem to part with them, no way.
Think I am, just because I can, going to buy a "lot" of bearings so I can set up a bunch of wheels and figure out without having to do the deed of pulling and seating. It might be nice...
This group/site has me realy stoked when I can't be out skateboarding, like when I am at work. ILB has a good soul, slalom is a core idea, enthusiasim is gaining and my pool board has finally taken a position farther into the stack.
Life spins, gotta clean the bearings.
http://www.smallstreams.com/soar if you want to know more about me than you want to know.
Take it easy Duane, C U around,
adam t
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My cleaning method
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On 11/17/2001 Duane
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Its simple, remove whatever shields you can, soak in a strong solvent like toluene (metal retainers only), for a day or two if you can, spin them in the solvent, then move to successive clean dishes of solvent until no more dirt comes out. Toluene will flash off residue-free in a few seconds to minutes. Lubricate immediately with the lube of your choice and reassemble. Didn't consider the Arizona angle, in DC you'd be in trouble storing dry. Work safe, which means outside if you can.
I used an ultrasonic cleaner once and trashed a lot of expensive bearings, it was a larger unit, maybe too vigorous.
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bearing stuff
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On 11/17/2001
adam t
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That's cool Duane.
That's what this place is, cool. Ideas, what works, your idea, my idea, sharing, knowledge, hopefully words ringing the truth.
The water and soap cuts the solvent residue. Never had a problem yet, and I have no issue with your response. This is what works for me, not that your reading my words from podium experience.
Here in AZ, it's low humidity. Things do not rust/pit for the most part. Maybe this is bad juju to store bearings dry in coastal or moist regions, in my area, a Volkswagon Van will hardly rust at all over 40 years of the elements. Neither will my bearings in a zip lock bag till I lubricate and change 'em out.
You may have a point with the ultra sonic cleaner, but I doubt it. For years, I used a light version of a jewlery sonic cleaner. Not as sharp as the surgical heavy duty ultra sonic cleaners at hospitals. The kind that we use to clean delicate instruments for heart surgery, neuro surgery, and gnarly orthopedic "tools" and I don't think that those delicate instruments got metal knocked off with ultrasonic vibration. Those picky heart surgeons and liability would have weeded that out a long time ago. It's not conjecture, this is just the way it is. Lithotripsy maybe, not ultrasonic cleaning.
Do you have a good method? I would like to hear it. I'm sure yours would be good information to read here too. Maybe you can share it and I can learn something? Maybe not, no worries.
Cool web site.
adam t
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Cleaning
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On 11/16/2001 Duane
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adam t, say what ? You got three "don'ts" there for bearing care: don't use water, don't store them dry, don't use ultrasonic cleaners. The reasons: rust, rust, and ultrasonic bangs the bearings off of the metal retainers, not a good thing.
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Sin ceramics
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On 11/16/2001 Herbn
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Finally got around to installing these on my stroker board,for some reason i made the axles .312,damn ,remaking them is out of the question,i figured i'd get the sins with 7mm(.275) top hats (rollerskate) and bore them to .312 oh yes! that will be cool,so psyched i got a 16 bearing set of ceramics. That all worked cool,now if only the play between the top hat and the bearing weren't just as bad as 8mm bearings on a 5/16 axle,gggrrrrr.
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oops
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On 11/15/2001 Herbn
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How did that get over here:)?
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Seismic reassemly rated X
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On 11/15/2001 Herbn
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I this funny post in my head,about how the wife holds the hanger,good positions to be in, ways to line up the holes with the kingpin,ect ect, just make up your own story before this one gets deleted.
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...old bearings are fast?
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On 11/15/2001
adam t
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Old metal sealed bearings are a good investment for me. The more they have been used, the better, that is, if I know their history of maintenance. I have a few sets that I have been maintaining for quite some years. I inspect them closely and care for them meticulously. I don't think bearings for most downhillers make a difference if they are maintained properly. Ceramic and abec rating above 5 are probably just "hype" Proper maintenance and spacing and good lubrication are probably more important.
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Older bearings with metal seals that have been maintained are what I am after. I will take GMN or NMB or those 608ZZ and "pop" off a seal, pick the worst side, clean them with mineral spirits, air dry, then run them through a ultra sonic jewelry cleaner. Then wash with a toothbrush and dish soap rinse well and air dry again. Blow them out with a can of "air" and either store dry or prepare them for usage.
I use "Dental Drill Lubricant." This stuff is made for drill shafts and bearings. It contains colloidal teflon and some other neat slick things. I will lubricate them with this stuff before I install them into the wheel, exposed bearing side in with proper fitting spacers. Using the small washer or speed ring tightening down axle nut to "just tight" then backing off slightly. Done.
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I don't know where I got the idea, I'm sure it isn't mine and I think I read it somewhere back in the eighties. I have been using this method and it works ever. The lubricant mentioned was from my father in law who used to mix his own lubricants for a business he had with dentists maintaining dental drives.
There is a lot of talk about abec ratings and "fast." What I think is fast, and what you think and what actually is fast is entirely another story.
Peace and dental grease,
adam
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PT Bearings
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On 11/15/2001
Claude
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Thanks Ed Lynn! Just received my PT's in 7 days. I'll hoppefully get to try them thi weekend in prep for La Costa.
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china bones bearing
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On 11/13/2001
jason gedeon condo
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well all i can say about the bearing that they are good they may not last long cause the cap's suck well anyway they are really good to me when i skate them
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axle nut / speed ring combo
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On 11/12/2001 PCB
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I've always wondered when someone would be marketing an axle nut with a built-in speed ring. It's such an obviously good thing to have. It would lessen the amount of bearing-bind that many people experience. I wonder if GrindKing makes these themself, or if they get them from somebody else.
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ester lube.
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On 11/12/2001 Rallo
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wasnt she the aunt on Sanford and Son?
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China bones and hub caps
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On 11/11/2001 Herbn
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My brother tried them in his hockey skates,he had a tramatic scratch/crash early on and never skateboarded very much,wobbles on my Banzai,career over:) well anyway he says the China's felt slow to him,very strange, i'll have to try a bearing that he says is fast,China seem okdokay to me.second pt,the folks at grindking trucks are making axle nuts with what appears to be a speedring and a second sheild attached to the nut,looks maybe interesting.
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