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mobius links
On 2/16/2004 Brady wrote in from (68.156.nnn.nnn)

In preparation for the upcoming ditch races, I thought I`d post this very resourcefuk link...

http://www.unm.edu/~moebius/

 
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portland
On 2/13/2004 Ben wrote in from (24.21.nnn.nnn)

Some guy on the sleestak.net forum said that he used to skate there inthe 70's.so im guessing that they are long gone. there supposed to be north of sunnyside rd and east of 205.
I'm gonna have a look at that area tomorrow if my ride works out.
do you know of any other ditches or carvable terain in portland? the hills and mini bank by my house are getting a little old.
-Ben

 
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Portland locations
On 2/13/2004 Roboto PDX wrote in from (63.242.nnn.nnn)

Ben I sure could not find any do you have any idea of where they were in relation to sunnyside and I-205. I looked on portland maps for a city project but had no luck here is a photo of the area if you want to look for yourself.
Please post if you locate them I want to ride!!!
http://www.portlandmaps.com/detail.cfm?ActiveTheme=Aerial+Photos&action=explorer&Cmd=Pan&ImgHeight=300&ImgWidth=450&ZoomLevel=8&X=7669128.94316&Y=650120.459689&left=7667175.82&right=7671082.07&top=651422.54&bottom=648818.38&lat=45.4332945323878&long=-122.566453529736&Map.x=429&Map.y=177

 
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205 & sunnyside rd? portland oregon
On 2/13/2004 Ben wrote in from (24.21.nnn.nnn)

anyone know anything about some ditches supposedly in the vicinity of 205 and sunnyside rd in clackamas. (on the edge of portland) for all I know they could have been bulldozed years ago.
any info would be great.
Thanks
-Ben

 
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TIMING
On 2/13/2004 miKe wrote in from (63.226.nnn.nnn)

i have your timing problems solved if you gots the cash. we use a great wireless timing system, accurate to the hundreth of a second for our ski and snowboard race training. regulations specify that we need to use wire timing for races, but this system works great for training and i am sure it is accurate enough for skateboarding's needs. i am sure you could adapt the starting gate from a wand starter to a slap plate, or an eye like fat city uses. a wand could work too... they don't have prices up on their website, but i have an email in to them. i used to race with the manufacturer's sons so, he might hook you guys up for me. perhaps fat city or another slalom race organizer would be willing to help invest in this timing system.

it's just a suggestion, an expensive suggestion, but nonetheless.

http://www.browertiming.com/

 
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Timing
On 2/12/2004 Farid wrote in from (165.247.nnn.nnn)

It's simple for timing.... Use "alligators".

One alligator, Two alligators, Three.........

It should be accurate enough.

I hope to make it out to shoot....... photos.

 
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OUTLAW...
On 2/12/2004 K-LEE wrote in from (64.106.nnn.nnn)

Let me remind you all that this is an outlaw race in the most hardcore sense of the word. It won't do us much good to have wire along the entire length of the ditch. Who stays behind to reel it up if the MAN runs us out? Or are we going to have a disposable timer system that we can just leave there? Also, nothing would attract the MAN quicker than having someone announce the starts via a loudspeaker. This has to be compact and low-key.

 
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ABQ
On 2/12/2004 Hamm wrote in from (199.41.nnn.nnn)

its all about riding the ditch and drawing the lines. The only bitching I'll be doing is if confusion and mayhem get in the way of my wheels rolling down the ditch. The signup looks rad so far. Stoked to see JoeI and AnthonyS coming out from the East. And it looks like the entire state of CO is coming.

can you ABQ guys offer any wheelbase/wheel suggestions? Would a drop-thru speedboard be appropriate?

 
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Timers and whiners
On 2/12/2004 GI Joe wrote in from (65.19.nnn.nnn)

I think that the point to make is that good timers eliminate bad whiners.
We need the scoop Palmer so that everyone knows what to expect. YES, there are timing systems that can go for however long you need to go using a hard wire set up. EDI has one that goes over a mile at every race they throw, and I've STILL seen plenty of whining racers, the difference is that with a real timing system they can whine all they want, they just don't have a case. Fastest time wins.

 
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Whine Session
On 2/12/2004 LBR wrote in from (161.97.nnn.nnn)

Can it be a race without whining?

 
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ABQ
On 2/12/2004 PALMER wrote in from (205.188.nnn.nnn)

WAHL ABQ IS ALWAYS A FUN RIDE. THERE WILL BE TIMING. I THINK WHAT GBMII WAS GETTING AT WAS LETS NOT HAVE A BUNCH OF WHINING BULLs#@! ABOUT THE WAY THE RACE IS RUN. JUST EVERYONE SHOW UP, GO AS FAST AS YOU CAN AND BE HAPPY WITH THE WAY YOU PLACED. THE ONLY PLACE THATS COUNTS IS FIRST ANYWAY SO NO USE BITCHING ABOUT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 8TH AND 9TH.

PALMER
BLR

 
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Outlaws and whiners do not mix
On 2/12/2004 K-LEE wrote in from (64.106.nnn.nnn)

The GPS thing would be fun just to get an idea of the possible speeds at the School. Palmer, I'll give you a call this evening. Does this mean I'm not grounded anymore?

 
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ABQ
On 2/12/2004 WAHL wrote in from (192.45.nnn.nnn)

Otherwise call it a FUN RIDE...

 
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Course, Timer, Logistics, Beer and Bitches
On 2/12/2004 WAHL wrote in from (192.45.nnn.nnn)

ABQ guys...Banked slalom is about YOUR LINE around a cone. FAST and FUN but skill required. Whatever it takes..But you better have your s#@! straight with the timer if people are flying out to RACE..

 
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INDIAN SCHOOL RACE
On 2/12/2004 PALMER wrote in from (205.188.nnn.nnn)

THIS RACE IS NOT ABOUT BEING SCANTIONED, OR WHINING, OR HUMAN ERROR OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. THIS RACE IS ABOUT SKATEBOARDING AND FUN. THE REASON WE ALL STARTED SKATEBOARDING RIGHT?

PALMER
BLR
KLEE CALL ME AND WE CAN TALK MORE ABOUT IT
505-440-2253

 
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GPS
On 2/12/2004 Joe & Nick wrote in from (63.87.nnn.nnn)

I'll bring my GPS in case you want to use it.

Joe

 
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Timing for the Outlaw Contest
On 2/12/2004 GBMII wrote in from (67.99.nnn.nnn)

K-Lee, I'm pretty sure we'll just do stop watches. Keepin' it simple. Whining will not be tolerated. We'll do our best to keep it fair and consistent. This is a contest for the 'core boyz. It's time to throwdown. Put up or shut up. We don't want money from the whiners. It would be fun as hell to do 4 man heats.... But the carnage would be to great.

The GPS idea sounds awesome, but would probably work better on a sanctioned event... Or one where we had more time.

 
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Sometimes you just have to laugh back into God's face...
On 2/12/2004 K-LEE wrote in from (64.106.nnn.nnn)

Family Schmamily. Count me in. I'm just gonna tell them that I have major heart surgery that weekend and can't leave the state, or perhaps I'll just tell them the truth. They're bound to understand, aren't they? Regardless, I owe it to myself to attend the race. I wouldn't be a very good wedding guest if I just sat there pouting thinking about all the fun going on back home.

Hey Palmer, let's start talking logistics here. I was thinking, how are we going to time it? Like you said before, there isn't a timer in the world with wires long enough to cover Indian School. And I have a feeling that walkie-talkies and stopwatches will only cause people to argue over human error. The next best idea that I have is to pool together $100 or so and get a small GPS unit from Wal-Mart or something. We can put it in a heavily padded fanny pack and strap it to each racer as they take their run. Then, instead of judging on time, we could judge on either top speed or average speed. And instead of having cone penalties, we could have flags throughout the course that the racers have to grab on their way down. Each flag missed or dropped takes a half of a mile per hour off your top speed or something like that. The only other idea I have is to let everyone charge the ditch at once, and the first one to make it to the bottom alive wins. Although I don't think that Albuquerque Ambulance Service has enough ambulances to cover the possible catastrophy. Think we even need cone penalties? There's enough holes and debris as it is, but it should be more than a simple drag race. What ideas do you have brewing?

 
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KLEE
On 2/12/2004 PALMER wrote in from (205.188.nnn.nnn)

KLEE YOUR GROUNDED NOW GO TO YOUR ROOM AND DONT COME OUT TIL RACE DAY.

PALMER
BLR

 
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GOD HATES ME!!!
On 2/11/2004 K-LEE wrote in from (64.106.nnn.nnn)

Palmer's throwing the outlaw Indian School race on March 20-21. Not only have I already made plans (weeks ago) to go out to visit with my girlfiend's grandparents the week before, but I have to be in Phoenix on the 20th for a family wedding. Don't they know? It isn't just every weekend that we have a race at Indian School. As a matter of fact, this is the first race to be held there EVER! I've been DYING to have a race there for years, and now that one is being held, I have DOUBLE previous engagements. MAN, DOES MY LIFE SUCK OR WHAT! I hope everyone has fun without me. Boo Freakin' Hoo.

 
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desert terrain
On 2/11/2004 miKe wrote in from (63.226.nnn.nnn)

so, i am heading to death valley in march for a school geology trip (missing palmers event =(. i get to talk about sand dunes, yea (boo). i am interested in scoping the area for skatable terrain- i.e. huge ditches or pipes in construction. we are visiting one huge pipeline that supplies california with water. there might be some leads there. other than that, we are heading from salt lake to vegas via I-15 and then heading west from there. any leads would be appreciated so we can further develop some spots. who knows, you give me a lead, i just might have another lead to give you in return when i get back. l8r sk9ers

 
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PA Dan & Tammy
On 2/10/2004 Steve (& Laura) in AZ, not too far from ABQ wrote in from (192.175.nnn.nnn)

...and when you come, don't forget to wear those cool orange & yellow tube socks!

-=S=-, B.F.N.M.

 
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Beach Bowl
On 2/9/2004 Willie wrote in from (207.66.nnn.nnn)

I have no idea. You know who skated it more, was Mark Jeangerard. He would probably remember everything about it. I'll ask him.

 
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Beach Bowl
On 2/9/2004 K-LEE wrote in from (64.106.nnn.nnn)

Yup, that sounds like the one I've heard of. Think it's still there, or even worth digging out?

 
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The Beach Bowl
On 2/9/2004 Willie wrote in from (207.66.nnn.nnn)

I remember when the Beach was just being built (late '80s?) and there was a concrete bowl at the west or northwest end. I think it was kind of rectangular with a shallow and deep end? I only skated it once. Is this the one you are thinking of maybe?

 
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