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On 4/5/2004
Dave H.
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Pumping board: Loaded "Superflex" and Randall/ABEC 11's - better than any pumper from Europe I've tried.
For shocking the soccer moms on the Midwest Flats: Exkate Powerboard.
Smooth commuters: Roll Rolls really rolls - and quietly too.
Best looking graphic: A pumpkin board with a custom Aeon Flux pic the length of the board.
Weirdest fun board: Loaded's 1/2 flowlab 1/2 seismic.
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f13 info
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On 4/2/2004 Duane
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It has a real old-school shape, the tail is over 9.5" so not much taper. Mild concave, and very little of the "ripple" behind the rear trucks that I find so annoying on deep concave decks. Not much nose, and wb is about 19", It is nearly a dead ringer for the original wide z-pig decks, if that means anything to you. Wheel wells are pretty good, well placed but I made them a bit deeper so I only need 1/2" of riser. There is a photo on the website but it is not the same deck exactly, but it is close.
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f13 lifer
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On 4/1/2004 vaitus
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Hey Duane would you share some more info on the f13 deck you listed among your favorites? wb, concave, wheelwells, riding impressions....muchas gracias
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my faves
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On 4/1/2004 Duane
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park: Factory 13 lifer 33x11" pig, tracker dart 182, no schoolz 92
carry / carve: landyachtz mummy (original), magnesium sixtracks, flashbacks
no risers, no wheelbite, very very light
beer run: bozi MBII, randals, gumballs 75A good to go to 40 mph
banzai run: one-off prototype speedboard (11" wide), wide ass modified Randals, abec 11 wheels as conditions dictate (75A is god-like)
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Word On The Streets
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On 3/29/2004
Seth
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For all of you who have been thinking about getting a San Filippo Custom Longboard, check out the new page on www.longboards-skateboards.com called "Word On The Streets". It is a review page and gives some feedback on the quality of the boards and service. You can also use this direct link:
http://www.longboards-skateboards.com/wordstreet.html
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Favorite's and Ultimates
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On 3/28/2004 hugh r
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There really is a huge number of quality components available to us these days! It takes a lot of parts swapping to come up with ideal set ups!
I'll throw this out there:
For banks, vert, and near vert: Skaterbuilt 12" Pig, flux risers & old school Tracker risers, Indy 215's, 65 mm NoSkoolz, PT Ceramic bearings
For parking structures: North Tahoe Longboards 2003 Special Edition, rubber shock pads, Randal 180 mm RII's, 70 mm Flashbacks, PT Ceramic bearings
I don't have an ultimate crusing, carving, bombing, commuting, walking set up yet... too many great choices out there to narrow it down to just 5.
Favorite full line of wheels - ABEC 11
Favorite specialty line of wheels - Turner/3DM
Favorite bearings - Pleasure Tool Ceramics
Favorite risers - Flux Industries
Short list... but it's growing! HR
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NCDSA complete
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On 3/27/2004 vaitus
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As I see it it's a lot better now than 2 or 3 years ago and there's no hype about certain new (and some not so new) stuff, it's actually that good. There are a lot more options now but if you look closer things are getting more and more specialized, which should make choosing easier if you know what you want.
If you still think you have too many choices use ncdsa as a sorting tool to see what riders of similar weight and style are saying and go from there, there'll always be some trial and error involved but it worked great for me.
Have fun!
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NCDSA complete
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On 3/27/2004
kaspian
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I'm totally out of it. Is there such a thing these days as a consensus favorite setup among NCDSA regulars?
Here's what I mean. About two or three years ago, if somebody new came on and said "Hey, I'm new to longboarding, what board should I get?" the consensus answer would have been this:
- deck: Landyachtz Chief, 45" pintail (cambered birch & fiberglass)
- trucks: Randal-II, 180mm
- wheels: Abec 11 Flashbacks, 70mm, 78a or 75a durometer
- bearings: Pleasure Tool, abec-7
So what's the story today? Too many choices? Bozi rulez? Seismics are the schni#zni&?
I only ask because, through no fault of my own, I've just landed a book deal that will give me some disposable income until my ex's hear about it.
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Digging in
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On 3/22/2004 Duane
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I do get the "digging in" feeling when I have too steep a geometry. Its hard to get this feeling at 50 degrees with Randals, unless the wheels have flexible lips (78A avolons will do it big time). But any more than 50 seems to be a problem. I like just about as little rear angle as possible, I run the rare 28 degree plates on Randals, with about 45 in the front. Very similar to what lots of serious slalom guys do. I get the best grip that way, and very good stability. For sliding I think a set of original sixtracks is the bomb, and I assume the new sixtracks would be similar. Offset, 88A rounded off wheels. I think it helps to have the rear swing out severely to start a slide, so the trucks must be loose. I don't slide doing downhill (emergency excepted), I'd rather flat-spot my shoes than my wheels.
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torsion/traction
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On 3/19/2004 herbn
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why would a torsion truck dig in harder? it's probabely the geometry,those torsions are fairly shallow geometry's (around 45 degrees turning angle)do es any body find seismics to be hard to slide as well? A conventional truck sticks to it's 60 deg geometry for the first little bit of liening. However would a shallow conventional truck(tracker) grip harder too?,i think so, it should.
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sliding torsions
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On 3/14/2004 hugh r
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I think it may be a rider weight issue... because on the Exkate torsions, I experienced the same as Adam... they would dig in extra hard when pushed hard into a turn... but for me, trucks with standard geometry (like Indys) would slide the easiest... HR
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Bozi gs 36 , I'm a believer
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On 3/13/2004 vaitus
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This board, set up with 130mm seismics (45 front and stable 30 rear) on thin flat risers and your choice of springs, 84a flashbacks and abec 7 biltins (broken in, cleaned and lubed) is DA SCHNIZL! scary fast, stable like it's on train tracks, carves like a knife on hot buttah and slides at command, smoother and easier to control than any other set up I've been on. Very addictive...
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sliding
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On 3/13/2004 vaitus
wrote in from
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imo turny trucks slide well, 159mm bakus slide really nicely and the 130mm seismics I'm running on the Bozi gs 36 are even better
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sliding
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On 3/11/2004 hc
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Adam, I have exkates and they slide fine for me.
Turny trucks actually make it easier to slide on longboards.
The problem might lie in 'fast-rebounding' trucks. They make it harder to keep that edge compressed.
My exkate bushings are modified from 'barrels' to 'cylindrical', taking away much of that rebound.
Regarding Indies or Trackers, they are prefered on shorter slider boards. R2's are just too turny on short WB boards.
www.geocities.com/sk8sanjose/sliding.html
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i seek advice...
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On 3/9/2004
Adam
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Torsion trucks like the Baku, eXkate, and Kapu are very hard to get to slide. Their tendency is to turn-in harder rather than to break free. Standard trucks like Indys and Trackers seem to be preferred by sliders from what I've seen.
For wheels I'd recommend Bones Bombers. They're a relatively narrow 68mm double-radiused wheel that comes in harder durometers that make sliding easy.
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i seek advice...
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On 3/9/2004
becca
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hey, i need some advice from somebody other than any of my longboarding-crazed friends. any other longboard-crazed person is ok. ;)
right now i'm riding a 42" long, 8" wide used Gravity deck (its got a kicktail and it's pretty stiff) with Baku trucks, and all i know about the wheels is that they are anything but new.
i like riding it, but i'd like to be able to slide, and when i tried to the board slipped and i landed on my butt. (it's not that i don't know how to slide... i did it on my old deck last year.) my friend advised me that it was going to be really hard to slide with my setup.
sooooooo... i would like advice on how to alter my setup so that it's easier to learn how to slide, and so that its better all around... i'd like to spend the least amount of money possible, since unlike the friends i skate with, i do not have an unlimited amount of money to spend on skating equipment.
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K-Lee
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On 3/9/2004
GI Joe
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K-lee are you there, I need to talk with you. When can I call you?
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BOZI quiver review
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On 3/9/2004
K-LEE
wrote in from
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The time has come to review my quiver of BOZI boards:
L to R:
1. GS36 36" x 9", 26-27 1/4" wheelbase (inner hole-to-inner hole); Seismic 130mm w/45* base and bone (max light) springs front, 30* base and red (light) springs rear; Abec 11 Gumballs 81a front, 78a rear, Biltin 7 bearings. This is my serious slalom setup. But take that with a grain of salt, because I'm not totally serious about slalom. However, I have run my share of courses on a number of setups. This is, by far, the most comfortable cone cruiser I have ever ridden. The oversize deck might be good for the standard GS course for most people, but I'd even use it for tight slalom. It works well enough at college campus people slalom! The risers are a steep wedge in the front and a thin flat pad in the rear. The Gumball/Biltin/Seismic combo provides me with more traction in the rear than any offset truck I've ever ridden, and they turn tighter than conventional trucks too. I must say, though, that I haven't tried either PVD's or Radikals. The spring slalom sessions should be a good proving ground for this rig.
2. Mad Bomber II 45 3/4" x 10 1/4", 35-37 1/2" wheelbase (older all wood version with deeper concave), Seismic 180mm w/45* base and lt. green (super light) springs front, 30* base and yellow (extra light) springs rear; Abec 11 Gumballs 81a front, 78a rear, Pleasure Tool 7 bearings. This is the board I use to bomb hills and ditches, the Bear included! For serious speedboarding, I may experiment with stiffer springs and/or dual 30* bases. I have a feeling, though, that when/if the dampened composite springs come out, I'll be riding those in all my Seismic trucks. I really like the feel and characteristics of the Seismic trucks, and the idea of dampened resistance seems like it would stifle anyone's current gripes about Seismics' performance.
3. Wedgenose Pintail 45 7/8" x 9 3/8", 32" wheelbase, stiff flex; Tracker Aggro Quicktrack w/Khiro white 60a insert bushings front, Seismic 157mm Chinese composite w/yellow springs rear; Gravity Super G 73mm 78a, Pleasure Tool 5 bearings. Regardless of what any website or review says, this is THE BEST truck configuration for these decks. The wedged nose is almost too wedged for any longboard truck, and the turning angle jumps to like 75* or something like that, where you get no lean and all turn, which equals bad response. My solution is to put a 1/2" riser and a mellow reversed wedge under the front Tracker truck (a Sixtrack would work too). This acts to lift and de-wedge the relatively slow-turning Tracker truck, to accommodate the steep front-only wedge. Then, what you end up with is a truck that's almost level (it still sits just a bit lower in the front) than the Seismic mounted in the rear with just 1/8" of shockpad. Those Khiro bushings are SOFT! You'll get wheelbite using them on another board for sure if you don't have cutouts. I also got a set of the blue insert bushings to play around with, and they are too soft for any of my shortboards. But, in a truck like the Tracker Aggro in front of this pintail, they are PERFECT! If you liked the Bones Hardcore bushings, you'll LOVE the Khiro bushings. Softer, more rebound, more memory. I still have to ride mine some before I can report back on the durability. The nice thing is that now you have trucks tuned to have similar turning angles , with the rear truck loose and deep leaning and the front VERY loose and VERY deep leaning. Otherwise, if you put something like an RII up front and a Dart in the back, you get all lean from the rear and all turn from the front and the board wants to twist. I've tried just about every combo possible, with the exception of Gullwing Cruisers and 30* Seismics, and I feel confident enough with the Tracker front, Seismic rear on the pintails that I raced this board down the Sandia Mountains last year for the Timeship Sandia Downhill Challenge. I got no speed wobble, but the wheels slid all over the place. Next time I'll switch to the Gumballs.
4. Mad Bomber II 44 3/4" x 10 1/4", 36-37" wheelbase (newer M-core series); Seismic 180mm w/45* base and yellow springs both front and rear; 3DM Avila 72a, Pleasure Tool 5 bearings. This is my girlfriend Nyah's cruiser and butt-board. She did the lovely Panda/Star graphics herself. Her first board was the pintail above, but she didn't like the feel of it for a beginner board. I have to admit that the pintail comes alive over 25 mph. Anyway, she feels very confident and stable on this board, and it carves better than the Pintail, which allows her to control her speed better. On this board, as with my Bomber, I only put a ¼” flat riser pad underneath the trucks. Both the pintail above and Nyah’s Panda Bomber feature Fluid Soft Top grip tape. The pintail has the pinstriped kind, and the Bomber has the diamond grip. This stuff rocks! It grips really well, allows for barefoot sessions, and doesn’t rip up Nyah’s hands. Also, it acts as a shock absorber and sticks to the deck great. But, for the price, I personally like to go with more standard grip tape.
5. GS36 same deck as 1., Tracker Axis (RTX geometry) 139mm front, Tracker B2 (RTS geometry) 139mm rear, both trucks have the longer kingpin/double Stimulator BOZI-job; 3DM Avila 80a front, 76a rear; Pleasure Tool 5 & 7 bearings. With a mellow wedgepad in front and a mellow reversed wedgepad in the rear, this is my everyday board, the first one I grab when I want to go hit the hills or are on my way to work or class. The Tracker, Avila combo has WAY less traction than the Gumball/Seismic combo on my other GS. But the feel of the RTX/RTX geometry combo is very sweet! If this thing had a kicktail, it would be a perfect all around board.
Feel free to e-mail either me or Jeff@Boziboards.com if you have any questions regarding these setups or other possible configurations.
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Entry Level set up for Tony
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On 3/8/2004
Geezer-X
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Email me regarding that 36" Bozi GS w/ Randals or Seismics and Gumballs. New and unridden, just waiting for you...
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Envy
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On 3/8/2004 henry
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I thought they were out of business for like two years now. Any news there?
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Envy Skateboards
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On 3/8/2004 Kkreigh
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The twintip design looks to be very interesting, esp. for somebody with snowboard background. What are experiences out there and where can I find one (XP or XS)? thanks
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slide like a god!
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On 3/7/2004
jawes
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Think I´ll go with the indy´s 215 and krypto classic blue..
they felt hard enough..and still kinda soft..
Still I want a lower truck..wide like indy 215 or randal 180, but lower without dropthrouging it.....don´t wanna cut the fibre and zyrcal on my supaflex´s..
any suggesions?
have you ridden tha krypto greens...race core 76mm?
hard like hell..or ride- and slideable??
damn..I want wiiide looow trucks!
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setup for supa- and fibreflex..
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On 3/6/2004
jaWes tha Swede
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Hi....I´m usually ride my homemade boards..but still...I have two supaflexboards...(supa 120 and supa dragon 120) the ones with a core of finnish birch..and a layer of glassfibre + a layer of aluminium..(zycral), and one fibreflex pintail 44"
I freeride..carv..and slide.
Like the trucks low..without dropthrough mounting.
Prefer no risers..but my homemade thin shockpad.
Don´t like wheels over 80mm
Any suggesteion for setup of my three boards??
Would really appriciate some serious answers! ;)
Btw..Pardon my english...I´m from Sweden....where we still got snow..for a month or so...=/
//jaWes aka jaCob.
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Entry Level Slalom Set Up
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On 3/5/2004 Tony
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I would like some advice concerning setting up an entry level slalom board. Currently I only ride longboards and generally do carving.I'm 6' tall,weigh 190# and wear size 12 shoes. I would like to experiment with pumping and running some cones for fun. I want to get an entry level setup that would still be versatile to use as a "city" deck also. I am trying to decide between a Mummy vs. Bozi GS deck. I'd like to try the Abec11 gumballs as wheels. I was thinking about Randal 150s for trucks. Any advice concerning these combinations or others would be appreciated. Thanks!
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snowboard trainers
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On 3/2/2004
hugh r
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http://www.hugh308.homestead.com/chipman_freeflow.html
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