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Slide Clinic Nor Cal
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On 12/18/2004 Judi O
wrote in from
United States
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Cliff,
Congrats on your slide safety section. I'd like to help get a clinic set up in South San Jose. Any dates available after your trip?
Have fun surfing!
Happy Holidays!
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Garage!!!
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On 12/17/2004
Miko
wrote in from
United States
(69.85.nnn.nnn)
Hey Cliff... We're doing the garage thing again sunday 7pm, meet ar Mark's. Hopefully we'll have Eli, Sully and crew down to make it competitive, and most surely, you and I need a rematch without all that extra traffic! Hope to see you sunday!
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sliding
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On 12/17/2004 herbn
wrote in from
United States
(64.12.nnn.nnn)
DH sliding became part of my skating around 82 or som,i'd seen someone do it even pror to the powell vids. Around that time i started making custom wrap around tailskids for my self and custom shaped skids for all the hammerhead ect ect shapes of the daym,rails and risers too. All out of uhmw or HDPE,i definitely remember my first DH sliding work,it was a piece of uhmw molded with a torch into sort of a wrist guard looking shape then holes were drilled on either side of the wrist section and those fat shoe laces were laced through,mi just slipped my hand through and hooked one loop with my thumb,that tightened everything up a bit and off i was. Slidestyle has two variations;race style, putting down a hand while entering a corner,ideally as light as possible just to stabilize things if the wheels drift a bit out of control. Then there's frestyle sliding "freesliding" ,all slides ever done on banks or vert or reg street,can be drawn out on steep hills,every slide can be done reg and switch,speed is a matter of nerve talent and willingness to execute your wheels. For many years i only did slide style when i had a set of wheels that needed killing. My favorite slide is one that i'm pretty sure i invented ,perhaps someone did an unknowing paralell invention ,but for quite a few years now i've liked the bertailslide;you throw a long slide close to a curb and stretch it into a tail slide or aim to ram the curb,you come out before stopping. I have accidently gone into grinds and lipslides. You use the wheels you would normally use to dh for racestyle. While cliff seems to prefer 95a i see that point ,but i can work with the traction of some of the new vert wheelsm,i like 60mm ricta burnquists.These hard as rock wheelsare like 60d or whatever, they let you transfer from one slide to the next seamlessly,combo slides.
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Cliff needs vacation help.
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On 12/16/2004
Cliff Coleman
wrote in from
United States
(67.120.nnn.nnn)
Who can guide me to a hookup with the right people/places for my up-coming vacation to Costa Rica? I'll be there from 1-12 to 1-26. I want to surf and it's been a long time! Anyone here know someone that runs a surf shop there? Is anyone in Costa Rica reading this? Would you like to hang out during my visit? Let me know.
Come on guys, hook me up please.
Cliff Coleman
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Dave's set-up.
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On 12/16/2004
Cliff Coleman
wrote in from
United States
(67.120.nnn.nnn)
Dave,
Your set-up sounds fine for learning. I'm not sure about your wheels, some have said the Bombers chatter/skip some when sliding. If that happens to you, just change to a better wheel and try again.
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Starter/gear
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On 12/16/2004 Dave
wrote in from
United States
(67.168.nnn.nnn)
How well would my old park
gear work for learning to slide?
33x9.5x15.5/64mm bowl bombers PF/166 Indy's
Would a longer deck 36" be better? I will not be
going fast while learning.
Thanks
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The UK is Slide tastic mate!
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On 12/16/2004
Alex
wrote in from
United Kingdom
(62.3.nnn.nnn)
Yo yo congratulations Cliff the Forum is awesome.
Sliding is reaching new hights down here in Cornwall we were walking into town the other day and saw a car park of about 20 kids (Boys and Girls) all wearing slide gloves and practicing their slide moves. WE WERE TOTALY STOKED!
For all of you out there, we are working on a new website were you will be able to view new movies, new tricks, slide products, Slide and DH skools, forums, galleries etc.
If you want to view some video's and pictures of Cliff's excellent slide clinic here in Cornwall check out, www.faltownskateboards.com and www.darksliders.com. If you can get extreme TV on cable look out for GEN-Ex on 15th and 16th of January 2005 for a feature on Cliff in Cornwall.
Cliff hope to see you end of january in Berkley I'll try and give you a call mate.
Best wishes and seasions greatings to you all
Alex and Chris (Faltown Skateboards)
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oops
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On 12/15/2004
Civ
wrote in from
Canada
(24.141.nnn.nnn)
http://tctf.mine.nu/vid_gal/index.html
try this link.
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540 slide
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On 12/15/2004
Civ
wrote in from
Canada
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Here is a link to to little clip my girlfriend shot of a little 540. This was just after I lerned how to do them. I can post a 360 too if anyone wants.
http://tctf.mine.nu/vid_gal/Various%20new%20s#@!!%20540.mov
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Norski
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On 12/15/2004
Cliff Coleman
wrote in from
United States
(68.127.nnn.nnn)
Bruce,
Good luck on the recovery. You will be back again and the gloves will help portect you much better in the future.
Happy Holidays my friend!
Cliff
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Surrender/Superman slide
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On 12/15/2004
Cliff Coleman
wrote in from
United States
(68.127.nnn.nnn)
Everett,
The only Brazilian I've seen doing a "Superman" skide is Sergio Yuppie. He does it on the "Flow" video into a toeside 180 or maybe into a toeside pendulum. The boys from Faltown and also some from the Lush crew in the UK start the "Surrender" slide straight out in front of their boards and then do a variety of slides from there, both toeside and heelside.
It is not necessary to lift a hand to do a 360 slide. It can be done either way, by lifting a hand or by leaving both down for the entire rotation.
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Everett
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On 12/15/2004
Cliff Coleman
wrote in from
United States
(68.127.nnn.nnn)
Everett,
I need a location, a back-up location, students with gloves and that's about it to hold a clinic. If you would like to help organize a clinic in the Sf area, I usually set a limit of 30 students. Since SF is close to my home in Oakland, I wouldn't need to set a minimum number for students in a class. E-mail me at the above link if you think we could drum up the interest for a clinic.
Cliff Coleman
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slide clinics
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On 12/15/2004
everett
wrote in from
United States
(64.136.nnn.nnn)
Hey Cliff,
Congrats on the forum, its about time I say. I have a couple of questions here for you one pertaining to if there are any clinics going to be held in the San Fransico area any time soon. The other regarding the surrender slide or the superman slide...which ever you want to call it. I have done that slide before but it was out of a two handed toeside slide. I was rotating that into a 360 (unlike the normal toeside 360 where you would have to move your uphill hand to spin) and started going down head first like the superman slide. I was just wondering if that is how the brazilians or the faltown guys are doing theirs or if they just go into a downhill head first slide. just wondering.
but keep up the good work, and stay safe
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Slide On!!
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On 12/14/2004
Bruce "Norski"
wrote in from
United States
(66.81.nnn.nnn)
Hello Cliff,
Great to see you've got your own forum now, congrats!
As you know, after many suggestions to me about wearing slide gloves, without complying, my number came up at La Costa. I'm certain my injury wouldn't have been as bad if I had been wearing sliders! Still going to PT to get the flexability back.
I've got some of those Timeship gloves on Santa's list! Hope he's coming from the New Mexico direction, and Joe can fill all the requests!!
Hope to see you at a clinic the first of next year, Jonny's possibly.
"Happy Holidays" my friend,
L8r SK8r
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Yorck
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On 12/14/2004
Cliff Coleman
wrote in from
United States
(68.127.nnn.nnn)
Yorck,
To see the style/type of gloves I use, go to : "timeshipracing.com". Check out the motorcycle glove with carbon fiber protection for the knuckles and "UHMW" pucks on the palm and fingers. I'm sponsored by Timeship and think their glove is about the best I've seen on the market.
If you would like me to run a clinic in your country with you, it is not hard to set up at all. You would have to set up a "Pay Pal" account. When you have enough students to pay for the round-trip air fare, we then confirm the clinic. If we fall short of the required number of students to get me there, we can then refund the class fees to those who had already signed up. I haven't had to do this yet. The classes have been at capacity levels so far. E-mail me for more information if you think you would like to proceed along those lines.
Cliff Coleman
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Marcio
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On 12/14/2004
Cliff Coleman
wrote in from
United States
(68.127.nnn.nnn)
Marcio,
For photos of my clinics, check the Essence site at: "www.essenceclothing.com", or check the Lush site at: "lushlongboards.com". There just aren't that many photos of me out there. I'm usually the one with the camera when I skate with my friends. Possibly some of the readers have some photos of me that I'm unaware of?
Hello to all of my friends in Brazil. I hope to visit your country this year.
Cliff Coleman
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Answer for Rodrigo
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On 12/14/2004
Cliff Coleman
wrote in from
United States
(68.127.nnn.nnn)
Rodrigo,
After reading hc's post about your question, all I can say is that I agree with his advice. Start learning to slide before racing downhill! He was also right that a shorter deck and harder wheels than what you are riding will make the learning a little easier. You can later experiment with different set-ups.
Thanks again for your very helpfuls posts hc!
Cliff Coleman
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Answers for Matt Smith
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On 12/14/2004
Cliff Coleman
wrote in from
United States
(68.127.nnn.nnn)
Matt,
My choice for favorite sliding wheels changes from one style of riding to another. I like Soft wheels, about 80 to 85 durometer for racing and sliding corners. For trick slides, I like a wheel about 95 durometer. At that hardness, the wheel still has enough grip when needed, but will allow many variations of slides including 360s etc.
Regarding sites, articles or other information about slides beyond the basics, I recommend downloading videos of the Brazilians or the Faltown crew from Cornwall in England. You should be able to find videos by using the search function on this site. Then study the videos and try to improve your technique.
Good Luck,
Cliff Coleman
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Slide Pics!!!!!
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On 12/14/2004
Márcio
wrote in from
Brazil
(201.10.nnn.nnn)
Hi Cliff
I'd really like to see here in your forum some sliding pics of you and also some pics of the slide clinics you taught!!!
Thank you!!
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sliding 101
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On 12/14/2004 hc
wrote in from
United States
(168.149.nnn.nnn)
rodrigo, a short board with hard wheels is the way to go for quick learning.
I don't recommend bombing without knowing how to slide. Learn to carve first.
www.geocities.com/sk8sanjose/sliding.html
matt, for freestyle sliding, videos are your best bet. Get the Flow video if you haven't already. Go through a slide frame by frame.
Adam, that pic reminded me of the early days when I was reading NCDSA. I remember Cliff arguing with the 'tail drag' guy and challenging him to a race? :-)
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Gloves
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On 12/14/2004 Yorck
wrote in from
Germany
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Hi Cliff!
Heard so many things about you.
What do your slide gloves look like?If you come to europe drop me a mail,maybe we can organize a slide clinic in germany.
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Sliding and Speedboarding
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On 12/14/2004
Rodrigo Stulzer
wrote in from
Brazil
(200.140.nnn.nnn)
Hi Cliff!
Congratulations for your own forum!
I'm speedboarding from 6 months now and improoving at every drop. The stopping technic that I'm using is primarily air-bracking, and foot-break coming as the second option, but just to lower speeds because I'm not have yet all the confort to do a foot break in higher speeds.
Well, the slide is one stop technic that I want to learn as quickly as possible, to improve safety. I know the basics to how do the slide but the few times that I tried it did not worked properly. I use 76mm red kryptonics because it's a awesome wheel that stick/grip on the ground and makes me very confident to use it at the high speeds that speedboarding is all about. I now it's far from the best wheel to learn to slide, but it's the wheel that I use for speedboarding, so that's life...
The questions are:
* It's the correct path to learn to slide with the red kryptonics or the better is to get another wheel to learn the basics and just after that try the red kryptos?
* I know that practice makes the perfection, but what can I do to speed up learning to slide?
Right now I just try and fall down, either butt-asphalting or jumping in front of the board. I think I miss the correct balance of the body to perform the slide.
And I'm using sliding gloves, of course :-)
Thanks for any help!
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Way to go Cliff
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On 12/14/2004
Jogger
wrote in from
Australia
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Hey Cliff nice to see you got your own forum. When we hooked up earlier this year I was impressed with how Safety consious you were. After our brief slide lesson my skating and confidence has gone ahead in leaps and bounds. WE just had our first downhill comp over here and safety was the overiding factor in the race. No major injuries but a few stacks. (our medical team were 2 hot chicks so I think guys were fallin on purpose) I just wanna say congrats anyway Cliff, I know this will help get your message to more people. Next time you head over here we'll put on a "proper" slide clinic the Old Skool Team way. Take care mate
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answer
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On 12/13/2004 hc
wrote in from
United States
(67.121.nnn.nnn)
http://www.geocities.com/sk8sanjose/slideposts.html
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Sliding wheels
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On 12/13/2004 Matt Smith
wrote in from
United States
(24.10.nnn.nnn)
Hey cliff or anyone,
In your opinion what are some of the best wheels for sliding?
Also is there any websites or forums that discuss in further detail how to do more than the begginers slide?
Thank you for your help.
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