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hey thanX
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On 3/5/2005
bikemike
wrote in from
United States
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Cliff
From the West Coast of Canada on the SunShine Coast here. Just like to say coodos for making this post it has alot of good tips for sliding. I'll defenently try the stand up slide & hoping I can be in this years Attack Of Danger Bay 4 so I can ride wit-da-Man himself CLIFF COLEMAN hoohaa
Peace out from BikeMike !Eh!
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Fred L.
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On 3/4/2005
FL
wrote in from
United States
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Doing well Cliff .Living in Carmel Valley...How you ? So full palm coverage is the ticket , eh ...FL
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Fred L.
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On 3/2/2005
Cliff Coleman
wrote in from
United States
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Fred,
We have been putting pucks of all types on gloves for almost 30 years now. When I saw motorcycle racers begin using them, I was thinking, like minds. Now the cyclists that you are talking about. The safety of pucks is profound! We have used all sizws and shapes to try and find what works best. It is important to have the palm covered however.
It's been a long time Fred. How have you been?
Cliff Coleman
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sport bike crossover
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On 3/1/2005 herbn
wrote in from
United States
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they also have free spinning bearings ,captive in afew places on the sides of their boots and such.
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plastic sliders
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On 3/1/2005
FL
wrote in from
United States
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Hey Cliff ..My neighbor is into sportbikes and as you probably know , they use velcro backed plastic sliders for their knees . They look like they might work for palms on sliding gloves .Do your sliders cover your whole palm or just the part by your thumb ? By the way , I saw Cliff downhilling at laguna seca raceway forward , sideways , and backwards ...FL
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Costa Rica/Andreas
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On 2/28/2005
Cliff Coleman
wrote in from
United States
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Andreas,
I spent my entire time at the beach in Santa Teresa. They have a skate cafe with a bowl about 7 x 8 meters. That was about it where I was at. There should be many hills in Costa rica to ride, but I wonder how the pavement might be?
Have fun and be safe there.
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Costa RIca
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On 2/28/2005
Andreas
wrote in from
Sweden
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Hi Cliff
I was going thrue some of the posts and saw that you hang out in Costa Rica, if that is right are there any hills there that you can point out to a swedish speedboarder. My old man moved there and I´m of to see him soon, is it worth taking a deck or sould i give it a pass?
Andreas
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thanks!
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On 2/27/2005 tom t
wrote in from
Canada
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Hi Cliff,
Thankyou for taking the time to do this forum, and for getting back to me so quickly! I appreciate the tips from a pro like yourself...Hope Costa Rica is a great time!
Tom in Toronto
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Tom T.
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On 2/27/2005
Cliff coleman
wrote in from
United States
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Tom,
First of all, slides can be done on almost any board. The most difficult set-up to slide would be a deck with rubber wheels. They have too much traction.
For a new slider, I recommend a deck about 33" to 36" for length. This allows a shoulder width stance, without having too much extra board to maneuver. After learning to slide, you can adjust to whatever length you desire.
For wheels, I like different wheels for different types of sliding. Hard wheels, 90 to 100 durometer work best for multiple spins and trick slides. They also flat spot easier than soft wheels. To try and avoid flat spots, keep your wheels rolling and your slides carving instead of squaring up and sliding in a straight line. For general hill crusing and racing, I like a softer wheel. I like them in the range between about 80 to 88 durometer. These are harder to learn on. They will also be a much faster wheel. The problem here is that even though soft wheels are faster, they also slow you down faster. I like momentum comming out of slides. Hard wheels do this for me where as soft wheels don't. If I am riding at 40 mph, and do a Pendulum slide on soft wheels, I find that after exiting the slide, I almost have to push to get going again. Many riders like to learn on hard wheels first, because they slide easier.
Trucks are not much of a problem when sliding. You can slide on the trucks that you like best.
The condition of your grip tape is important for sliding! If you have any bare space on the top of your deck, you will somehow find it and your foot could slip when you don't want it to.
The type of shoes you use are also important. I like a high top when I ride. This gives better ankle support and protects more of the foot. The inside of the back shoe when sliding gets a lot of wear! If there is a lot of fancy stitching on the inside of your shoe, it will wear off when sliding and your shoe will wear out very quickly.
The learning area you pick is also very important! Don't put yourself at risk by choosing too big of a hill! Learn on a gentle slope until you get the techniques down. It is harder to slide on the flats, but if you learn on something gentle, you won't risk your speed getting out of control on a hill too big for you.
Videos are very helpful! Take a look at the slide videos from Lush, Faltown or the Flow video from Gravity. Study these frame by frame until you get the idea. If you still find that you are having teouble, check back here.
Good luck to you,
Cliff Coleman
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slide history
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On 2/27/2005 tom t
wrote in from
Canada
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Hi Cliff,
I'd love to learn slides. Can you recommend set-up parameters, basic do's and don'ts, and/or any videos?
Any help greatly appreciated...
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stand up slides
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On 2/25/2005 tristan
wrote in from
United Kingdom
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many thanks for the advice cliff
i knew you would know the answer
thanks
tristan
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Stand up slides
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On 2/19/2005
Cliff Coleman
wrote in from
United States
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Tristan,
I owe a call to the guys at Lush and I also want to make another visit to Cornwall. I'll get on the move here very soon and then I can confirm a schedule.
About stand up slides, if you were regular foot this is what you could do. If you are goofy foot, just do the opposite. Start a left hand turn. Drop your center of gravity a few inches. Do a classic drop knee turn. Then reach out in the direction of travel with your hands. This should initiate the slide. Then if you want to stop the slide, pull the uphill hand back, as if you were going to place it in your pocket. This turns your upper body back to allign with the fall line and stops the slide. It gets you rolling, instead of sliding. The reaching with the hands keeps you over the board when it is sliding.
Cliff Coleman
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Standing Slides
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On 2/19/2005 Tristan
wrote in from
United Kingdom
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Hi
been watching some video clips of Daryl Freeman doing standing slides
can anybody give me any tips/help on how to get them sussed please?
cheers
tristan
ps Cliff when you coming back to the UK ?
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faltown
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On 2/10/2005
hc
wrote in from
United States
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faltown guys, great seeing all you freestyle moves.
can't wait to see your dvd.
hc
www.geocities.com/sk8sanjose
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Albuquerque Slide Clinic
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On 2/7/2005
Joe Lehm
wrote in from
United States
(65.19.nnn.nnn)
May 28th and 29th TimeShip Racing will host the Outlaw Invitational here in Abq. New Mexico where we have the world's longest banked slalom AND the worlds largest banked slalom. If you have been invited be sure to sign up on the Contest Calendar. Hang on! Now we have invited Cliff to attend and conduct a slide clinic, probably on our Super GS hill near the airport. Let's have a show of hands if you would like to come and study with Cliff here in God's Land of Ditches. Why race and lose to the best racers when instead you can SLIDE and RIDE with the best sliders!!! I can already smell a Bear slide session cooking.
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Faltown in the USA
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On 2/7/2005
Alex
wrote in from
United Kingdom
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Yo yo yo. Well back in good old sunnyish Cornwall. Just thought that I would put a most in to say a big thank you to every one we met skated with and stayed with during our time in San Francisco and Berkley.
The legends of endless runs to bomb and slide in Berkley are all true and the guys that ride there are not only legendary they are super fast, smooth and they all rip.
A big thanks to the San Hose crew too-sorry we didn't meet up on the last day-we were shatterd and took it easy on a hill out side Andrews house in Berkley. Good to final skate with you Everett it was awesome and big thanks to you Mark Johnson for showing us the San Hose scein and filming-if we could get a copy of any RAW photage you have that would be great.
Cliff and his crew were awesome to us and we cant thank you enough for all your kind hospitality. You are all welcome to Cornwall any time,
I looking forward to the future of sliding,
Best wishes
Alex Brinnen
alex@faltownskateboards.
www.faltownskateboards.com
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Cliff guuuuuuuuuy
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On 2/6/2005
everett
wrote in from
United States
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Hey cliff,
Just wanted to say thank you for doing the Tour De Berkeley the other week for the faltown crew and I. To say I had an unreal time would be a great understatement. I loved seeing all of the diferent styles of sliding from you, jim, the faltown boys, and the san fran crew. It was truely inspirational. Although I wish I could have stayed at that hill you developed a lot of slides at...but what can ya do? But it was nice to finally meet you, and get to skate with other people for a change. Hopefully if I ever get the opportunity again i won't rip my contact right before i start skating like the last times. But it was nice to do ok with out any real vision a head of you. hehe. Have fun.
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not enough momentum here yet...
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On 1/29/2005
Greg Olsen
wrote in from
Canada
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Dear Cliff,
I hope to be really active in the nascent longboarding scene here this summer. It is small but growing. I will do some talking with folks. I don't know enough yet to ensure enough bodies to pay for your trip here. But I would like to get out to the Danger Bay gig. Maybe someone there can organize you to do a workshop. Any fellow Canucks out that way able to organize a workshop at the Danger Bay race? Something that will compensate Cliff as well?
Greg
P.S.
I am in Calgary, AB home of the Millenium Skatepark. Supposedly the worlds largest outdorr park. I just WISH they had not nixed the snake run.....
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Greg Olsen
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On 1/28/2005
Cliff Coleman
wrote in from
United States
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Greg,
I was in the Vancouver area and approximately 100 water miles North of there, up the Jarvis inlet. This was a long time back in 1967. This May, the third weekend, there will be a race at "Danger Bay", near Pender Harbour. I'm going to make that one and hang out with the "Coast Longboard" Guys.
I would love to come and do a clinic in your area. I just have to fit the scheduling. First of all, where are you located? Contact me with/for details via e-mail.
Cliff Coleman
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Charge for expenses as well
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On 1/28/2005
Greg Olsen
wrote in from
Canada
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Cliff,
That fee should just be for instruction. Travel and expenses/lodging should be paid by the group as well. Ever been to Canada?
Greg
P.S. Did the Faltown boys pay your way over there to England? They are awesome sliders! Sliding is a real artform!
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Slide clinic for Deano
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On 1/28/2005
Cliff Coleman
wrote in from
United States
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Deano,
I am running clinics at $50.00 per person as an introductrory offer until I get my web-site up and running. It will then be $100.00 per person. So to have a clinic in your area, you must set up a Pay Pal account for entries. Then when you have at least 20 students enrolled, it becomes possible to confirm the classes. We would need a good area to teach! The best would be a slight grade and as wide as possible. The less traffic the better! A parking lot would be ideal with a little grade and a smooth surface. Stay in touch with me for scheduling via e-mail.
Thanks,
Cliff Coleman
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Slide Clinics
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On 1/26/2005
Deano
wrote in from
United States
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I thought I would ask this here as there may be others who are interested...
Cliff,
What does it take for you to come into town and put on a clinic? How many people, what is the cost per person and how are you compensated? I am working with a local YMCA and would love to bring you into town.
Also I hope you are thinking about the MAryhill race in June, this is one hell of a road and should not be missed!
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Art Again
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On 1/26/2005
Art Fisher
wrote in from
United States
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Looks like your'e in Costa. Sweet. Hit up my email and call me when you're back in the bay.
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Hey Cliff, it's Art
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On 1/26/2005
Art Fisher
wrote in from
United States
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Howzit Cliff? I'm gonna try to call you this morning. I just gave your name and website link to a grom down around Ventura who is stoked on downhilling so if some kid named Nick Ostrofsky posts here that's him. What about this rain dude?? When you coming over to Marin to bodyboard?
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Faltown Crew/ Cliff's return information
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On 1/26/2005
Cliff Coleman
wrote in from
United States
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Alex and crew,
I won't be arriving until about 10pm tonight. If you still have accomodations, you should probably stay one more night. I don't want you guys to get stuck not knowing when I might get in! It would be nice if some skaters have been putting you up? Anyway, you can call the number posted at any time day or night and I will arrange to meet you upon my return or tomorrow morning. 1-510-652-9653.
Cliff
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