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Q&A: Cliff Coleman on Sliding and Safety (1159 Posts)
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footage
On 9/5/2005 nick coleman wrote in from United States  (68.185.nnn.nnn)

cliff,

hey you broke your foot and ankle, how long have you been moving on that foot. i'm not a doc and i don't know you but, maybe you should try and see someone about that. would hate to see ya loose a leg....

but what do i know?

 
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Slalom fun
On 9/5/2005 Judi O wrote in from United States  (68.124.nnn.nnn)

Cliff,

That was fun skating with you and the boyz. Just got back from camping. What a treat to skate with you. You earned the five spot.

See you at Worlds.

Judi

 
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Thanks Alot
On 9/5/2005 Jared wrote in from United States  (66.75.nnn.nnn)

yeah thanks alot oct 20-25 look for me sliding up SF its gonna be great thanks for the info!

 
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hills in CT
On 9/4/2005 bpizzle wrote in from United States  (67.163.nnn.nnn)

hey julien - don't feel like you're "stuck" in connecticut, we got plenty of nice stuff over here. i'm sure you're spoiled, coming from that area of california, but there definitely isn't nothing to skate. like i said on SF, i got a few buddies...one is always down to skate who has tons and tons of equiptment, one was in Martha's Vineyard but is coming back in a week or two - both have cars. lets get this going before the season is over!

 
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berzerkly hills
On 9/4/2005 Julien wrote in from United States  (129.133.nnn.nnn)

yeah, definitely hit up the Old Tunnel. Such a sweet run, all curvy, long and mellow.
Make sure to hit up Hiller Dr too while your in the area, its the runoff at the bottom Tunnel; insano 22% grade, I'm not crazy enough to bomb it but you can slide forever on it (did my first 360 pendulum there)
The other nice thing about this spot is that there isn't much traffic (I usually run it at night)
the bottom section has no lights but you can still see the road pretty well if the moon is out.
I'm stuck in Connecticut at college now and am missing that hill already

 
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Jared
On 9/4/2005 Cliff Coleman wrote in from United States  (68.127.nnn.nnn)

Jared,

Berkeley, not berkley. You are coming to slide heaven. If it is slides that yuou do, get a map. Then try some of these roads in both Berkeley and Oakland. Grizzley to Euclid. Buena Vista, Shasta, Centennial, Tunnel, Clairmont, Snake, etc, etc. If you don't get to any of those roads, just get to the top of the East Bay Hills and point it down. There are hundreds of roads to chose from.

Have fun, wear your safety gear, be polite to those who don't skate that you encounter and have fun!

Cliff Coleman

 
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Places in Berkley
On 9/4/2005 Jared wrote in from United States  (66.75.nnn.nnn)

Hey im from San diego and will be taking a trip up to berkley, was wondering if i could get and tips were the best places to skate are thanks.

 
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Slide'n Dem Hillz wit Indians
On 9/1/2005 Brian "Chief" Nez wrote in from United States  (67.160.nnn.nnn)

Eh, Yo whats up there cap'n? long time no sk8. me and a buddy aren't the best at heel side slides and we need the man to help out.

Get Awesome like rizzo says,
Brian

 
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Bones
On 9/1/2005 Cliff Coleman wrote in from United States  (68.127.nnn.nnn)

Aengus,

I don't have joint problems due to age. I do have a bad left foot/ankle. This resulted from a slip and fall on a wet floor. I broke the foot/ankle and didn't/don't have medical insurance. The foot has never been the same and causes me daily pain/problems. The irony is that my skateboard is somewhat like a wheel chair for me. I don't have to articulate the foot as much when riding a skateboard as I do when walking. I don't take supplements and I don't do any special excersizes. I do skate on a daily basis which keeps me in good shape. At 55, I feel the excersize that is a by-product of my skating has kept me fit and feeling young.
The bottom line is to do what is necessary to stay in shape and live a longer, healthier and happier life.

Best to all of you on your side of the pond,
Cliff Coleman

 
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Bones
On 9/1/2005 Aengus wrote in from United Kingdom  (193.113.nnn.nnn)

Hey Cliff, just wondered if you do any excersises to help your joints deal with the stress of skating, do you take any supliments? I'm thinking of the long hall and I though here would be a good place to start gathering some information! Thanks and hope things anre good with you.

 
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Thank You Cliff
On 8/26/2005 Derik wrote in from Germany  (193.7.nnn.nnn)

Hello Cliff,

I just want to thank You and the other guys that answered my questions during the last weeks. This is a great site for a little novice from overseas. Gravity sport is extremly rare here in Hamburg and it lacks of competence, when it comes to longboarding. I learned a lot seeing Your videos, reading articles and asking stupid questions.

Thanks!

 
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Out of Round Wheels
On 8/25/2005 Cliff Coleman wrote in from United States  (68.127.nnn.nnn)

Derik,

Yes wheels can get out of round from sliding. Sliding is both fun and quite safe. it is true however that wheels get worked from sliding!

Post #300,

Cliff Coleman

 
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Do wheels get out of round?
On 8/25/2005 Derik wrote in from Germany  (193.7.nnn.nnn)

Hello from Hamburg,

my wheels make noises like a leaf is sticking on it on tight turns. Is it possible, that the wheels get out of round from sliding? (Than I better use my old wheels for sliding)

Ethan, I recomend pads and gloves. I don‘t wear them when cruising around at low speed, but when it comes to sliding speed and trying new techniques. I'm a novice to this sport and I found out that I can slide better, because I feel protected. I don't think about hurting when my knee is close above the tarmac during a front slide, I just think about sliding. Gets My mind free. And with protective gear I have speed wobbles much later, only at verry high speeds. Cause I found out that speed wobbles also occur when You become a little cramped due to fear. (And when You are to fast with trucks to loose, of course). First I felt stupid wearing protective gear, cause al the cool dudes around don't. But You should see my kneepads. Without them my next vehicle could have been a wheelchair.

Have a nice ride!

 
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Ethan/Pads
On 8/23/2005 Cliff Coleman wrote in from United States  (68.127.nnn.nnn)

Ethan,

Your eyes must be fooling you? Seriously, when I was your age, they didn't have pads. I recommend slider gloves, I use Timeship gloves. Pads, I like Harbinger Pro knee pads. Get their elbow pads too. You are bound to touch an elbow now and then and you will be happy you had pads on. Wear a helmet. I have a helmet from Giro. It is lite and fits well. No matter what you see or hear, I recommend safety gear and safety techniques.

Have fun!
Cliff Coleman

 
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master cliff
On 8/23/2005 Ethan wrote in from United States  (65.60.nnn.nnn)

hey cliff i was just watchen that longboarding/sliding video with the nature boi called flow. u told me to get all the pads and sliding gear before i started sliding but i could swear i saw u haulin ass down a hill sidways with nothing but a red T-shirt on and shorts. ,your anoyying little pal, ethan

 
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COAST LONGBOARDING SLIDE OR DIE CITY WIDE TOUR 2005!!!
On 8/23/2005 STRIKE wrote in from Canada  (24.82.nnn.nnn)

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when its dark evil will play. come out and play...

WWW.COASTLONGBOARDING.COM

JUST KEEPIN YOU GUYS UPDATED

 
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ok cliff
On 8/20/2005 ethan wrote in from United States  (65.60.nnn.nnn)

i think all i need are some slidding gloves because in ohio we have hills to get going that fast. but on average how much do they cost???

 
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Ethan
On 8/19/2005 Cliff Coleman wrote in from United States  (68.127.nnn.nnn)

Ethan,

You need pads! Get slider gloves on before you even think of skateboarding. I know you've been looking for speedboarding gear. Don't push anything until you are prepared. Buy full pads, a helmet and Gloves. For speedboarding, buy leathers. If this means you have to get a job before you can buy these items, then that's what you have to do. How long do you want to live? Wouldn't you like to minimize the risk of serious injury? Show how smart you are, not how macho you can be.

Cliff coleman

 
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who needs pads
On 8/19/2005 ethan wrote in from United States  (65.60.nnn.nnn)

well actually i do need sliding gear like those gloves but right now i dont anything execpt pants when i go sliding. slidings not that dangerous is it???(i hope)

 
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pads
On 8/8/2005 murray wrote in from United Kingdom  (80.4.nnn.nnn)

well i find a lid and knee pads are pretty much staple for me when sliding. having knees means you can get flung off mid-rotation and land on your hands and knees and just slide out, or if you need to run out at all, you just flop onto hands and knees - much easier than trying to run out!!

re leathers, i find they probably are a bit overkill - even if im wearing shorts & tee, the only bits of unexposed skin are the bits between my gloves and elbow pads and my shins between my knee pads and shoes, and its pretty rare for them to hit the deck. with knees, elbows, gloves and a lid, all your main contact points are covered = minimum skin loss and maximum flexibility!

 
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Slide gear
On 8/5/2005 Aengus wrote in from United Kingdom  (193.113.nnn.nnn)

Hey,

Nah, I hardly wear pads when I slide let alone think about wearing leathers. The way i see it is that when I slide if I come off I slide on my hands and feet however I land, if I'm trying hard stuff I might wear elbow pads or knee pads. It would be a real hassle to carry round leathers, its already annoying having to carry pads sometimes. Really the loss of some skin dosent really bother me coz it only happens once in a while and it dont really hurt much (unless its big), also as I get better I stack less and in more controled ways so..

Really pads are for learning and hardcore stuff and leathers is for speedboardin. My mate Rich has been sliding for 5 months now and hasnt lost skin once with no pads, I aint as safe as him tho!

I have considored leather or slide spots on my slide shoes coz they get ruined real quick, I'm waiting for a slide shoe to be made, skate shoe with UMPHMPEWRGIHP patches on it, velcroed for changing. That would be the tits.

 
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Safety Gear
On 8/4/2005 MG wrote in from United States  (216.52.nnn.nnn)

Does anybody ever consider wearing leathers when sliding? I bought a set of leathers for downhill and always wear them for slide sessions. The confidence factor is off the scale and a fall that would normally grind you down hard is like bumping your knee on the coffee table. You can push your limits way more than when just padded up.

 
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Choice
On 8/3/2005 Aengus wrote in from United Kingdom  (193.113.nnn.nnn)

Its about choice at the end of the day, no one can tell you how to skate, not yet anyway. Skate safe, if that means pads so be it, we're all able to make assesments as far as risk goes, its up to you.

Also, its a disproportional comparison to link pro's not usin pads with norms who do. Pro's hardly crash coz they're pro's. The rest of us have to watch things a little carefully.

Really safty is more than pads, more than gloves and more than skill, its a mind set. I feel like I push myself to an acceptable point and I do trade progression for safty in some cases but its always a calculated risk.

I guess at the end of the day its a very complicated situation and no amount of simple explination changes that. While I ride safe, I also allow myself to dodge cars and live on the edge somtimes.

Basically have fun and make sure you can do it the rest of your life, I for one plan to skate forever.

 
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Use your head!
On 8/3/2005 Nick wrote in from United Kingdom  (80.4.nnn.nnn)

How is plastic on your hand going to protect your head?!!?!? just because you have pieces of plastic on your hands is not going to stop your hand caving in as it hits the asphalt at high speeds. I had to go to A and E last monday because me and my friends were messing about in a sloped carpark trying some more tecnical stand up slides and although i was wearing elbow pads/knee pads/slide gloves one slide spun me out so quickly that my legs went above my head and i fell the equivalent of 5ft11 onto my head(It happened so fast and to such a surprise that the automatic reaction of putting my hands out just didn't happen)- because we were just in a carpark and not going very fast i wasn't wearing a helmet- ended up seeing things and being close to vomiting for about 14hrs but luckily nothing more major. If i had been wearing a lid it would have been no problem and the session could have continued. Lesson learned! The point is at speeds of 40mph you are not nearly even in the same situation. True crouched slides are a lot safer than stand up slides and cliff and jim have been doing them for years with no problems- Dont forget they know those hills they skate inside and out. However you can be the best slider in the world but all it takes is a stupid driver you havn't seen, a glove catching (it happens to us all) on a drain cover and if you're not wearing pads or a helmet you WILL be entering a whole world of pain. Its up to you if you chose to wear a helmet but knee pads are essential as lets face it how can you do kneeslides without them!??

 
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safety
On 8/2/2005 murray wrote in from United Kingdom  (80.4.nnn.nnn)

well i understand his point - the ability to slide is dead handy and makes it all a lot safer, but it in noooo way distracts from the point that you are flying down a tarmac/concrete hill at high speed. is it not sensible to wear at least a helmet? why take the risk???

 
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