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On 4/23/2003
kaspian
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I know Adam & his team of volunteers are incredibly busy — but...
The NCDSA archives have gotten so massive these days that a lot of great information is all but impossible to access. Lately I've tried doing a "search" for a couple of older threads, using various key words, but the 100-match limit is like a brick wall.
This is not a complaint! I think this is the greatest site in the world, and the creators and administrators deserve to be named World Heroes by acclamation of the full UN General Assembly. But ...
I do wish, at times, that some method (paged results, or a "search again" feature, or anything) could be devised to allow a topic to be researched all the way back. It's frustrating to know that the Wisdom of the Ages is sitting there in this computer, waiting to be revealed, if only you could get at it. (Also, I find old posts kind of entertaining to read, just as a measure of how much and how quickly things have changed.)
And BTW, Adam ... if NCDSA does not have T-shirts, as I just read in the new posting guidelines or somewhere, then how come I've got two of them?
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On 4/22/2003
Duane
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Pinewood cheating has been eliminated, almost. Nothing is allowed but graphite, and any alteration whatsoever of the wheels / axles (nails) is cause for dismissal. Its funny how dads always get in there and mess things up. The Soap Box Derby got so bad that they had to disallow any handling of the wheels by participants. An overnight exposure to xylene vapors for the tires, and you'd smoke your competitors by a couple seconds. And people would chuck the wheels on a lathe and shave down the steel thickness. Then when you were no longer allowed to have the wheels ahead of time (and the hubs were plastic), folks would quickly wipe the rubber with xylene or toluene and still dust the competition by a big margin. The pits smelled like a solvent factory. Now, you can't even touch the wheels or tires, at all. I get a chuckle out of the full-aero cars that 7-year-olds make, themselves (yeah, right).
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On 4/21/2003
Wesley Tucker
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66,
Do the kids still carve divots in the bottom of their cars? By altering the bottom of the car from a flat surface to a surface with a reasonable concave area, you break the vaccuum that is created between the bottom of the car and the guide track it rides on. Sort of a "ground effect elimination" trick. The last thing these cars need is more traction. What they really need is more downhill acceleration.
If I remember correctly, a divot in the bottom of the car abou the size of two pennies was sufficient to eliminate any "adhesion" between the car and the track.
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On 4/21/2003 Pine wood derby
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was the first event in a lifetime of competitors and organizers who want to protest me when I beat them on equipment.
Weight distribution: exactly 50% f/r side/side
Axles: chucked in a dremel and polished, if it's legal. Dupont used to make a powdered teflon lube called VYDAX which was probably toxic, but god it was fast.
Wheels: exactly the same diameter, and depending on your ethics, if you can remove material from the middle of the bore, that's where the gains are. Alignment is a huge deal too.
Good luck
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On 4/21/2003
Adam
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From the webmaster..
Times change. People change. Our Posting Guidelines have also changed to keep pace with These Exciting Times.
Of particular note is an addition dealing with the disturbing new trend of unlawful assault that I've witnessed in forum discussions, of late. Ncdsa.com does not condone this conduct in any form and will go to great lengths to avoid enabling it or being party to it.
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On 4/21/2003 hugh r
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We raced similar cars in an organization I belong too last week... got it on the word of a nasa guy that on those little wood cars, you want your added weight in the back and up as high as you can get it... HR
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On 4/21/2003 Carrie Okie
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somehow, this makes me think about the Seinfield episode where Kramer joins a little kids Karate class...
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On 4/21/2003 66
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off topic.....but still a gravity "sport".....
pinewood derby
my kid beat every car in his pack (double elimination) to move on to the district race this saturday
aside from a liberal application of graphite, what else can i do to make the thing go faster? i've heard putting the weight in the back helps, but that's the opposite of what i find true on my skateboard
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On 4/16/2003 Phillip Hergash
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hey Ollie,
the best times last year came from large/GS type slalom decks(a ROE Bonita would ROCK!), ABEC11 Flashback 84a wheels...and Turner Avalon wheels did well too.
some rode longboards and randall trucks.
some rode their regular park boards.
it's mostly about having balls of steel.(not talking bearings)
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On 4/16/2003 Alan Gelfand
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what is the best setup for the Kona banks
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On 4/15/2003 Nima
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I thought Bush was the only one doing any sucking of any toe jams... and that of Karl Rove's...
I am not sure a database such as requested will be inherently accurate. While some trucks have certain basic characteristics, the user's weight, ridding style, stance etc... effect all that a particular truck has to offer. Same is true with wheels and decks... So while say indy 166 and Street Gs may be THE set up for one person, it may prove disastrous for another.
To the delight of manufacturers, nothing beats the old experimentation with various set ups to find out the one for you.
My 10 cents worth
(My 2 cents is free.... :-))
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On 4/15/2003 h0dad
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You are not alone, there are legions of us who hate DBs. Well h0dad thinks relational DBs suck the jam from between his toes after a day skating, but OODBMS seems like a ray of hope!
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On 4/15/2003
Antti S. Brax
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Saint Louis? Didn't we agree that religious issues are fought in the Gong Show?
h0dad: object oriented databases, servlets and applets for fun? You are a madman. But a good idea for a project, though. I think I was contemplating such a thing once but didn't get past designing the database (I hate databases). And I also got pedantic on submitting new information. Some fsckwit will of course submit "Indy 166" while everyone else uses "Independent 166" which already is in the database.
Have you used any of those coctail databases in the net? Would be nice if I could select the truck and deck I already own and then be told that I only need Xyzzy wheels in 86A hardness to get a killer setup.
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On 4/13/2003 Califoreigner
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The topic for the Bulletin Board this week is, "St. Louis"
Discuss amongst yourselves
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On 4/13/2003 h0dad
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A "setups" forum?
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On 4/13/2003 h0dad
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h0dads currenly learning to make object oriented databases, driven by servlet & applet. To get this stuff one's head, it's best to set a personal project, to explore all the little sh*t eating things that can go wrong.
What kind of project? A skateboard setups database of course!
Currently it stores all h0dads wheels, trucks, bushings etc, right down to the spacers. Next it will relate these, ie. what combinations of bushings and trucks, decks, risers are good etc. A lot of domain knowledge must be captured.
Would be cool to have some kind of website like this.
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On 4/13/2003 eh?
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sid vicious????????
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On 4/13/2003 danny finch
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F.A.O Kimi
did you mean me when you said you got pictures?
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On 4/12/2003
Mike
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I whanna start longboarding because i live on a huge mountain with lots of hills. I've been riding regular skateboards for four years now and i'm wondering if a 40 inch comet fiber flex with abec 11's and some randal 2's would be a good board for me. I am probally just goinging to do just downlhilling and mabey some sliding.
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On 4/11/2003
kevin
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I would suggest checking this out, it's way cool. This site is the shiznit. http://www.asksnoop.com/shizz_frame.php
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On 4/11/2003 herbn
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sid?
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On 4/11/2003 NUTTYSK8ER
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I found a company that isn't so main stream for skating clothing www.urbanlegendgear.com
Nuttysk8er Chicago,IL
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On 4/11/2003 dave?
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check this out...
Lords of Dogtown Script Review
I believe every self-respecting movie fan has been following David Fincher's career. He first began doing commercials and music videos in the 80's. Alien 3 became his directorial debut in 1992. He followed with his breakthrough hit Se7en. Hailed as a revolutionary genius after that success, he continued with The Game. He came back with a vengeance with Fight Club. Unfortunately for him, the film wasn't a big commercial success. To get back into the game (no pun intended) he decided to helm Panic Room. A moderate success both at the box-office and with critics, Fincher was back on the prowl for his next project. Would it be Rendezvous with Rama? the kitchen drama Seared? or perhaps James Ellroy's The Black Dahlia? A month ago, we finally got our answer. He dropped-out of Mission Impossible 3 to concentrate on Lords of Dogtown. The screenplay is written by former Dogtown resident Stacy Peralta (more on him later on). Shooting will apparently begin next month. Roger Avary (Pulp Fiction, Rules of Attraction) has been hired to polish the script I'm reviewing today...
In the rough neighborhood of Venice, California called Dogtown, Skip Engblom and Jeff Ho are legends. Well Surf gods to be more precise. In the early 70's, Jeff and Skip started 'THE JEFF HO AND ZEPHYR SURFBOARD SHOP. Every kid wants to be a Z-Boy. We then meet our heroes: Stacy, Tony, Sid and Jay. They worship their surfing gurus. They would do everything to be part of that cream of the crop group. Skip exchanges some weed for avant-garde urethane skateboard wheels (You can do the same hard turns that a surfboard does, because they grip.) That strange trade leads to the invention of contemporary skateboarding. After asking the four kids to test the new innovation, Jeff and Skip decide to form a Zephyr Skateboard team. Unfortunately, they only pick Tony, Sid and Jay. After a competition, Jeff decides to give Stacy another chance and adds him to the team. The Z-Boys soon start to burn the opposition everywhere they go. Their face is on magazine covers and the store is selling out of skateboards. Suddenly fame and money catches up with the boyz. Rival companies start throwing money around to sponsor them, while Jeff & Skip aren't giving them their fair share. The friendships start to fracture over money and the Z-Boyz soon cease to exist...
I was really impressed by how superb the screenplay to this project is. One of the biggest compliments I could give it is to compare it to Almost Famous. There are a lot of similarities between both stories. They each take places in the 70's, the leads are adolescents growing up too fast, and both deal with notoriety and the obliteration of friendships over cash. Stacy Peralta based it on his life experience as a Z-Boys. Cameron Crowe did the same thing with Almost Famous. I still have trouble expressing how I feel about that film but it comes down to one thing: it's about real people, it feels like the ride home after being away for a long-time. Peralta comes really close to achieving the same deed.
A weakness of the story is that it lacks a really high quality female part. I know you can't invent one just for the benefit of the tale, but there's too much testorestone. Stacy's love interest, Summer, is underwritten and she's the biggest female role of the picture. The script lacks that ONE GREAT scene (À la 'Golden God' in
Almost Famous) to make it spectacular. I'm sure Roger Avary will have no problem rewriting or adding one to this already fantastic story.
Lords of Dogtown features a definite departure for David Fincher. His films have usually lived in a very darkish universe. Dogtown is absolutely nothing like that. The majority of the film takes place outside during the day. We'll finally be able to see the full range of Finch's ability as a director. Is he just an awesome suspense filmmaker? Can he make us care about those 70's kids? The skateboarding sequences should be a blast for him. The Z-Boys invented a bunch of tricks and were also the first ones to skateboard in empty swimming pools. I'm sure Fincher will have no problem envisioning all of that.
SANDRA
What do you get out of skating inside of an empty swimming pool?
TONY
It makes me aware of who I am. Skating a backyard pool is the purest form of skateboarding. It's the real deal like surfing a secret spot where you have to be covert and protect it from everybody.
SANDRA
But most people would look at empty pool and all they would see is a bowl of cement. What do you see?
TONY
A virgin.
I absolutely loved the way the four leads are written. We see a little back story on each of them. They're perfectly humanized. Stacy is the innocent/shy one. We have the crazed daredevil in Jay and Sid as his tag-along best friend. Tony is the future superstar. None of them sound like any of the other three, as they all have distinctive personalities. The script is well fleshed out. It's almost certain Fincher & Co will cast unknown actors for those four roles. Hopefully, he'll throw in one name or two for the older guys. Maybe former Skateboard superstar Jason Lee???
This screenplay is a beautiful blueprint for success. We could be witnessing the birth of a new David Fincher. Hopefully my excitement won't turn into disappointment when we see the final product.
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On 4/10/2003
kimi
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Danny Connor ....I've got pictures for you. Please send me your email address.
Mahalos! --Kimi (Hey Darryl's girlfriend)
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On 4/4/2003
Antti S. Brax
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How about splitting the slalom forum to "slalom equipment", "slalom tehcniques" and "slalom events" forums?
The volume of slalom related posts in the generic forums is big enough to warrant separate forums and these slalom related posts only seem to degrade the rest of the longboarding discussion into bitter flamewar.
So how 'bout it?
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