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lovely glovelys
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On 3/12/2001
R.
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no doubt,
I get the importance of sliding gloves; I'm very aware of it-- that's why I wear my leather ones. I'm just wondering a) if the slab of plastic is necessary at higher speeds, (the leathers hold up fine under 20) and b) if there is some way to make a compromise between protection of the palmskin and normal range of finger movement, i.e.: by melting plastic on the gloves instead of strapping/gluing big blocks of uhmw or whatever to your hands. I am more of a low-velocity slider (i.e.: not bombing @ 50 mph) so it would be nice to have gloves that are versatile as well as functional, for banks, bowls, small hills, carrying your board, sipping a coke while you're on a flat stretch, giving the finger to aggro motorists, etc. Guess you could always take off the slide pads...
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Slidergloves
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On 3/12/2001 Herbn
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You're not really riding,until you have gloves,obviously you can and risk your skin,but gloves are fun,consistant fun,you can blast into corners,with no worries,i can't imagine riding at my level without slider gloves. Railgrabbing is so unimportant,i guess i could sort of hook the board,but why?
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gloves
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On 3/8/2001
leo
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R, go to either hugh's r page or chrischaput and look for slideing gloves, you can still grab your board with that kind of gloves....
leo
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hmm gloves
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On 3/7/2001
R.
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hey all,
I was just wondering... right now I'm just using some double-thickness Home Depot work gloves to slide with and they work pretty well, although I haven't taken them up sliding to any significant speed (i.e.: 20+ mph). I assume this is why the plastic is important-so the pavement doesn't rip off your glove and then your palmskin, yes? But I really hate the idea of having a big slab of plastic stuck to my hand- not being able to grab the board or rail, etc.
So, my question is... has anyone tried "slickifying" the leather in other ways? Say with wax, or maybe melting the plastic, and sticking that on the palm of the gloves? Any ideas on how well that would work?
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contact cement
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On 2/28/2001
hugh r
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So far so good on the contact cement... I am holding my breath and crossing my fingers! I just don't want to get too happy... especially after the bananna peel incident! HR
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Ca DOA
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On 2/28/2001
hugh r
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Bummer... Sure seemed like the stuff was holding, so I gave it a stress test. My velcro peeled like a bananna!
I will be giving the contact cememt a try.. thanks for the tip DT. HR
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contact cement
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On 2/27/2001
DT
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I have tried numerous types of glues, goos, and gimicks and have found contact cement to work best. Just make sure you follow the steps correctly, the first time i used it, i didnt realize you need to let both the gloves and the plastic dry before you stick them together. also take a razor blade and scrape up the smooth side of the plastic.
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Ca
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On 2/27/2001
hugh r
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On a whim I tried some good ol' Ca (cyanoacrylate) to glue the velcro to the uhmw plastic... IT WORKED!!! Hurray!!
I hadn't even thought of it till I saw a bottle of it yelling at me from the shelf... a rocket model builders best friend now used to help manipulate a cutting board... HR
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shoo no-goo
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On 2/26/2001
hugh r
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Shoo goo does not stick well to uhmw cutting board material... any suggestion on what type of adhesive might work? Thanks, HR
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dying uhmw
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On 2/26/2001
hugh r
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Any ideas on how to colorize this stuff? I tried boiling it in food color dye infested water... stained my pan real nice... hope my wife doesn't notice. What am I thinking, she doesn't cook!
Thanks, HR
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holes
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On 2/26/2001
hugh r
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I goo'd those things up on my lunch break today... no holes! If they don't stick I'll have my opp to drill. Thanks for the tip... HR
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Slider gloves
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On 2/26/2001 Herbn
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If you must shoe goo the velcro to the uhmw (i hope thats what the cutting board is)drill some small holes through the Uhmw and make sure the shoe goo goes in the holes.
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Velcro Sliding Gloves
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On 2/24/2001
hugh r
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I just started a new sliding glove project today. These ones will have removable/replaceable pads that attach via velcro(like I'll EVER wear a set of pads out!) To check out the progress on these copy and paste the link below... HR
http://www.longboard_skating.homestead.com/velcro_gloves.html
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Helmet light
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On 2/24/2001
hugh r
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JP,
Glad to hear it's going to work for you... I thought it was too cool of an idea not to have one! HR
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Helmet Taillight
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On 2/24/2001
JP
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Thanks Hugh r I just bought this light and found it on http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/product.asp?Dept=29&ID=2158 and http://www.v-sportswear.nu/tld/helmetacc.html for $32.00. GREAT IDEA--because I live in Brooklyn and work full time and go to law school at night and skate mostly at night.
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Helmet mount LED flashing tail light
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On 2/22/2001
hugh r
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Came across these at a local motorcycle shop... picked one up for one of my helmets... posted some pics on my page... HR
http://www.longboard_skating.homestead.com/helmet_light.html
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Scabs
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On 2/22/2001 Herbn
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From cyclists,roadies(racers),who occasionally take themselves and those near to them,for long slides on the pavement,i have learned that scabs actually slow healing time.Bandages and antibiotics/neosporin type stuff are good but should be changed 4 to 6 times a day with cleaning of accumulated scabs(ouch!)Remember your body heals from the inside,drying out is not healing.These tips are from a seemingly early retired cyclist who can spend all day changing bandages and continue riding,i guess it works ,but i havn't found that kind of time.
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helmet questions for Dallas
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On 2/21/2001
DT
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Dallas,
I got a message from Mallard for you regarding the helmet.
e-mail me at: skate2night@hotmail.com
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helmet
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On 2/14/2001 mikez
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Cheap, light good vision, full face with visor
any ideas?
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Pro-tec
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On 1/16/2001 Dallas
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South African in search of the Pro-tec boarder cross fullface speed helmet. Where in the world could I source this rad helmet? It looks perfect to me, we should all have access to this scarce product. PLease let me know of a distributor in the World / States .
Speed Tip - Push down hard over your nose and fall continuously forward.
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Chris Chaput's Magical Equipment
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On 1/13/2001 bobo the clown
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I guess this post really might not belong in this forum, as it is not about , but is a response to Chris' last post. While some of us might not have 27 years of experience skating under our belts, I still think that I, along with others, could benefit greatly from having superior equipment. Living at college, I, for one, don't have access to a workshop to make my own speedboard with. I have emailed you and posted about the roughcuts decks you were making. I see the advantages of a low cg board with huge wheel cut-outs, like you make. It would be much better equipment for bombing than a regular longboard. While it might not be practical for some of us to go out and buy kevlar speed suits and aero helmets, I think that, riding a good speedboard is the first place to start. Anyway, if you would, please get back to me at jncomagic@aol.com. Thanks.
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Old Man
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On 1/13/2001
Chris Chaput
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I'll be 40 in April of 2001, I started skateboarding in early 1974 and have never stopped. I had "taken a break" from COMPETITIVE skateboarding since 1981 when I skated against Rodney Mullen and Steve Rocco in a freestyle contest. 27 years of skateboarding, but speedboarding only since late June of 2000.
Nobody HAS to wear an aero helmet or a speedsuit. I choose to because I believe that they both offer superior aerodynamics and that they are about as safe as other's equipment. I have taken hard falls at Mammoth, Seattle, Barrett Junction and Glendora Mountain Road and suffered only a broken big toe and sprained wrist (nothing a helmet or leathers would have helped). As I have stated before, I don't recommend the Landingham helmet or the kevlar leathers to anyone who is not committed to overcoming their downsides. So far, I appear to be the only one currently speedboarding who is fully committed to the perceived benefits of both the kevlar made helmet and leathers. So far, I've made it into the finals of every race that I've entered, taken second place in all but one, and won a gold medal in a downhill inline race where my first and only practice run (ever) on skates was the qualifier, and where I went on to win every heat. Scott Peer, the previous race's champion told me why he thought he couldn't pass me (and it wasn't my level of experience).
If anyone wants to believe that a retired seventies freestyler has some special skill set that transcends the otherwise necessary practicing and racing with experienced riders, that's fine. I've never been accused of being humble and yet I think that more realistically I am a speedboarder of marginal talent who has done a little homework and discovered what helps make people fast in gravity based racing. Either that or I am just plain lucky.
You decide:
Is it great equipment?
Is it great skating ability?
Is it great luck?
I can live with whatever you decide. I'd prefer that you think it is my skating ability or my luck so I don't have to worry about others in kevlar made products. If you think that it is no great accomplishement or you think that average equipment and average ability makes it to podium in racing today, that's fine with me. Don't practice and don't use modern equipment. There is a good chance that only after posting impressive victories in speedboarding will others understand the merits of my equipment. By then I will have accomplished my objective and others will probably then go on to talk about special wheels and bearings, ignoring the obvious. I love it.
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Helmets
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On 1/13/2001 Herbn
wrote in from
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I think it's at a reduced rate.Most of those helmets are dropped or crushed to an early destruction,by something other than a crash.The styrofoam padding is the NONRESILIENT padding/protection,it takes the impact into itself and does not rebound it into your head(resilient padding would do that) later.
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Helmets, crashing
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On 1/13/2001 Blah
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I agree with Hugh one the point about the aero helmets for novices. They aren't a good idea if you're not very experienced.
On not retiring your helmet after a crash (since aero helmets are so expensive), that's a very bad idea for safety reasons. All crash helmets are designed to absorb energy and break apart in a kamikaze mission to save your life. Once you crash a helmet, you should retire it and get another. Even if the helmet has no visible damage, it could have sustained damage that you cannot see and no longer protect you.
So remember kids! Replace helmet after crash.
(BTW: I read that Vigor helmets have a lifetime crash replacement policy. Does that mean I get a new one if I crash one?)
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X cellent
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On 1/13/2001 Herbn
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Reading has never been so FUNdamental,if you're confused don't read it(leo).Points are made,getting a little personal in the arguement,but nothing to rash or unfounded.I figured what Hamm said would be true,i don't think a brawl would ever break out at a race over what's been typed in here.Lets see;if DT is 25 years younger than Chris,and first rode a skateboard 17 years ago,at i guess at least 5 years of age,that would make Chaput ,how old? i think the numbers are a bit off.Maybe you skated around the pediatric ward where you were born,they may allow that in cali:)
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