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Ollieblocks
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On 11/27/2002
Antti S. Brax
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Instead of hassling with swapping trucks to ollie blocks and vice vera why not take a piece of plastic pipe and cut holes to it so that it can be snapped on the truck to cover the wheels and prevent them from rolling?
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Ollie Blocks
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On 11/26/2002 Buddur
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As someone who spent countless hours learning freestyle moves on carpet in the winter in my parent's house when I was young, I can attest that learning tricks on carpet can be invaluable...because it works. The one nice thing about carpet is that your board doesn't have "as much of" a tendency to shoot out from under you when you don't land correctly.
And you all already have found out the hard way, when learning moves, it's a matter of trial and error, trying and failing/falling, kicking and flipping and not making the move till finally...you pull one. So frankly all the trial and error should probably pe put toward the object you are actually going to be doing the move on/with...the skateboard. And as some may have noticed "sometime" during their sk8 endeavor, riding moves are easier to do when going fast(er) because of the momentum (not sure why, but I just know that it's true), like riding a bicycle the faster you go the easier it is to stay up...try doing a 540 bigspin going slow, let alone standing still...or on an ollie block.
I do think they are a cool idea, but not one that I'd invest in.
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forget ollie blox, think softie trucks
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On 11/26/2002 hc
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david, the carpet ollie is just the beginning, it took me a long time to progress to cement ollies and rolling ollies over a curb (not consistent at all). The new school boards also help alot, much easier then my old pig boards. But the kickflip is eluding me.
A indoor trainer is a good marketing idea, but the question is whether the ollie blox and balance log are actually effective trainer.
And if i am actually going to set one up, i would not be swapping wheels off my board, that would be too much hassle, it would be more convenient to have something set up really to go. In that case, the 'softie truck' option might be the cheaper solution. (if it works, that is)
Julius told me a good idea recently, he's gonna put a piece of plywood in his living room for freestyle practice and
cover it with rug with not in use. (let's hope his board doesn't shoot out and take out the ps2)
clayton, fyi, i will be working also on my gorilla grip and bunny hop (both hand grabbing the ends).
oh, and rail stands and caspers, too..... ;-)
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Ollieblocks
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On 11/26/2002
Clayton
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the other thing that is great about the ollie blocks is that you can mount them on top of your board and use them as handels. this is especially good for people that can't ollie yet but still would like to jump.
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Verizontal
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On 11/26/2002 Antti S. Brax
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I'm all messed up. But you get the picture, right? I blame the baby hogging up my right arm. Fortunately I'm left handed.
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Ollieblocks
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On 11/26/2002 Antti S. Brax
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The reason why a skater ollies higher when moving is because when the tail hits the ground the friction of the tail slows down the skateboard but not the skater. This makes the skateboarder move forward relative to the skateboard and gives her the ability to push his front foot forward more efficiently (ie. drag the board higher up with him).
In an ollie there is absolutely nothing that converts horizontal velocity to vertical. All horizontal velocity comes from the muscles of the skater and ollieblocks help train just those.
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Pole vault
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On 11/26/2002
Antti S. Brax
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In pole vault the pole acts as a spring which is loaded by the momentum of the jumper. The jumper then jumps upwards changing the direction of the *compressed* spring (the pole). If the jumper does not jump the pole just unloads throwing the jumper back to where he came from.
During an ollie the skateboard does not compress like a pole would.
I do agree with the skaters not know s#@! about physics part, though.
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Ollieblocks
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On 11/26/2002 Dom
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Duane ~ I still think you're bitter about the blocks because you didn't come up with them first.
If they help you practice your skate tricks when you can't go out and skate (ie. it's raining out) isn't this better than sitting around playing Tony Hawk on ps2? BTW - i don't think they are made of wood.
With they way to talk down to us "skaters" you'd think you were George Powell or something.
If you are not into a product or don't understand it, that's no reason to bash it...especially if the product comes from our fellow skaters.
Whatever floats your boat mate.
Dom
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Block heads
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On 11/26/2002 Duane
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Hey Dom, you miss the point. They are stupid because you don't need to send someone money to put a block of wood on the bottom of your board. Not to mention, they distill skateboarding down to not skating at all, instead of barely skating like most flipper-skaters I see around the hood.
Also you are wrong. Do you really think soemone could bust a 42" ollie while standing still ? It is similar to jumping with your legs: yes, you can do it standing stationary, but you'll never jump as high as you can when you take a running start. Yes, some of the forward momentum is converted to vertical lift. Think pole vault. No I don't expect skaters to be well-versed in physics.Ollie block are the inflatable love doll of skating. If that's your bag, then rock on.
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Ollieblocks
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On 11/26/2002 Dom
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Duane,
Anyone who can ollie with any ability knows that what you said is incorrect. Your ollie height comes from jumping straight up and your distance comes from how fast you are travelling. Do a search online on how to ollie and you can find this information easily. And, that is exactly why a product like the Ollieblocks would be beneficial..even to people like you whom already presume to know everything about skateboarding.
Dom
Ollie blocks are stupid for this reason: an ollie uses both the forward momentum of rolling along slowly, and the impact / spring-back of the board and tail to give the vertical lift. It is not straight up, its a vector upward and forward.
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handle
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On 11/25/2002 david
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hc, with the handle, i am being sarcastic.
mayble i should go bomb tunnel road on a little razor scooter?
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ollie
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On 11/25/2002
david
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yea hc, i can ollie, waht else is there to do when you are in washington where there are'nt any hills and its always raining.
as for the handle, great idea clayton! how about welding the trucks so they can't turn and glueing the bearing so they can't spin. then with the handle one could really learn to ollie high, and is'nt that whas skating is all about?
but seroiusly, the reason i think the ollie block is stupid is because it costs money when the exact same effect couuld be acheived many other ways with-out acually spending money.
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transworld 25th
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On 11/25/2002 hc
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bought a copy, great 80's flashback photos.
even an 'how to ollie' section featuring Gonz circa '89!
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holy cow, another one!
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On 11/25/2002 hc
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do i smell a lawsuit?
http://www.softrucks.com/
(pics of high ollies, too!)
clayton, i love the handlebar idea, will make one immediately for my speedboard. (I am not joking here)
Can't believe david is ollieing, will bring out the camcorder to document this.
hc
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Ollieblocks and Klayton
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On 11/25/2002 Carver
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Wouldn't using the Ollieblocks and the scooter handle together result in hitting yourself in the......oh, I get it. That's funny :)
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Ollie blocks and David
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On 11/25/2002
Clayton
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David can actually ollie. i saw it him doint it on saturday!
I believe he learned it without ollie blocks.
Oh, and for all you ollie block lovers I have a product that might interest you. It is a handle (similar to a scooter handle) that screws on to the screws on your front truck. It is designed for those who cannot yet balance so well on their skateboard and need a little more security. It is a lot easier to keep your balance with this handle and I promise you will fall a lot less and your board will not shoot away from under you anymore.
I strongly reccommend this product to be used together with the ollie blocks for everyone that is new to skateboarding.
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those amazing ollie blox
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On 11/25/2002 hc
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don't worry dom, david is just bitter that he can't ollie.
;-)
actually, david, for those that are learning kickflips and stuff, carpet just doesn't have the pop, thus you gotta do it on cement, but trying to stick it can cause you to fall on yer ass.
another idea is a hangar that have frozen wheels (super glued bearings) preventing rolling, but still have side to side truck action. But then i wouldn't be able to make any money off it. ;-)
hc
still trying learning the kickflip (both old and new school)
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Why they are stupid
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On 11/25/2002 Duane
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Ollie blocks are stupid for this reason: an ollie uses both the forward momentum of rolling along slowly, and the impact / spring-back of the board and tail to give the vertical lift. It is not straight up, its a vector upward and forward. So if you sit stationary your ollie lacks the forward component so will be low and weak. Besides you could just slap old wheels with jamed bearings on for exactly $0
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Ollie blox
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On 11/25/2002 Dom
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I don't think they are stupid, I just feel stupid for not coming up with this idea before they did. I think it's brilliant. Why use a voo-doo or balance board if you are a skater? Why not use a similar device that is specific to developing skateboard skills? That's where this product seems to fit in. Does anyone else see this? Or, is it just a stupid product as David has concluded?
Peace out.
D
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Longer 'snowskate'
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On 11/24/2002 PSR
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Anti,it's probably the best you're going to find out there now.The board you're looking at is longer(better stability,tracking,and even maybe floatation?)than the offerings from Gnu,Burton,or Salomon. Meanwhile,check out fuse.com for their take on the ol' Skeeter idea,at least it has trucks,which = steering,but it may sink even worse.If you pick up a copy of Transworld snowboarding Buyer's guide and compare pages 78-79 to pages 100-101,you'll see that the new 'toys' have very little on the pre-'83 vintage boards,other than ollies.I'd even tell you to go talk to Jack Smith,and ask whether his Sandboard design will glide on Snow.I'll bet his new sandboards (+-$150) work even better than they did when I raced him (and Gary Fluitt) at Suicide Six at 'The Nationals' back in the day.I still have that Burton Backhill,and ride it at local Golf Courses,just like I did 22 years ago.
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ollie blocks
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On 11/23/2002
david
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this has to be one of the most stupid skating inventions ever.....why buy a "ollie block" when you get the same effect with just taking your wheels off...or just praticing on carpet.
ps..HC, you missed a killer Berkeley hills session today
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flowlab ollie blocks
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On 11/23/2002 hc
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tried it recently (on carpet and cement)
yes, i can ollie but not good enough to consistently hop on curbs, would like to learn the kickflip this winter, but anyways...
the flowlab setup just doesn't seem to pop right, it felt harder to ollie on it than a regular sk8brd, not sure why...
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wackyboards
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On 11/23/2002 hc
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current issue of 'skateboarder',
the article on tradeshows, item#2
takes a pot shot at the current influx of 'alternative' skate products at the ASR show, like freebord, snakeboard, magnetron, coilboard, flowlab ollieblock, vew do, etc.
hc
www.geocities.com/wackyboards
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Longboard snowskate
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On 11/23/2002
Antti S. Brax
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Here is the product I was looking at: Bideck Longshot.
Snowboards are out of the question (I'll get one as soon as driving three hours to a barely decent hill gets interesting again). This would be used while the daughter rides a sleigh with mom down the local hill ;-).
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longer snowskate?
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On 11/22/2002 hc
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antti, link?
psr, a local inventor bust big air at vans on his 'magnetron' skate shoe.
saw this at copeland sports, indy tool belt, buckle have tools built in!
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