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getting the feel of the "real thing"
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On 12/6/2002 shnitzel
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ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha, first lets skateboard like we're snowboarding, now lets learn to ollie on the carpet... ha ha ha ha ha....
realy now... in the 80's we used to bolt wood blocks to small freestyle decks to learn tricks like rodney mullen... worked fine... did everything you say...
as for the moving vs still ollie height comparison??? well, we're basically dealing with jumping on a frictionless surface... so it makes no difference moving or not... and you can watch me ollie to support that theory. on the other hand, with an ollie block that keeps the board stationary i belive it will change the basic motion of your ollie slightly... because your board can not move in relation to your body's center of gravity. when frictionless with bearings your back wheels can roll while the front of the board is lifting.
i bet one form of ollie is not potentially higher than the other... i bet if you ollie on carpet all year you can probably ollie higher on carpet than cement... and when i ollie on cement all year i bet i can ollie higher than you on cement... ha ha ha ha ha.... and i bet i can ollie up curbs better too ;)
stick to skating on the s#@! that rolls.... thats the point. love these little arguments... keep the entertainment rolling!
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Longskate board bags
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On 12/6/2002 Nicky
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Im pretty sure longskate.com make 2 board bags for up to 48" boards....
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travel bags
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On 12/5/2002 Haggy
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Thanks for advice Antti.
which leads me to my next question, anyone know of an online store where i can get a child-size snowboard bag?
peace.
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Travel bags
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On 12/4/2002
Antti S. Brax
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Haggy, they make snowboard bags for children too. Get one of those.
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It's a mind game
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On 12/3/2002 Rio
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Ollie blocks? heh...I'd never buy them, but I think it would be good for those who land stationary ollies, then a split second later, fall to the ground while the boards flies in the opposite direction.
I just barely learned how to ollie, and the way I see it, the path from stationary ollies to ollies in the forward direction is just a mind game, where you tend to panic a little (at least I used to) because now, you're in motion. Your body takes on the same motion, you're jsut moving forward.
When you practice stationary ollies, look in the direction you imagine yourself traveling. When you want to start rolling ollies, travel at say 1 mph, and increase the speed slowly when you can land it.
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travel bags
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On 12/3/2002 Haggy
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I'm curious what kinds of bags people have used for their longboards when they fly/travel. I was thinking of getting a snowboarding bag as that'll fit a couple of boards and other misc equipment. But as my longest board is 45 inches, i don't really need a 67 inch bag, which seems to be the smallest i can find on the internet. Any suggestions?
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ollie crocks
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On 12/3/2002 R.
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I have to side with K-Lee, et. al. although in inverted fashion. I can bust big ollies all day long stationary--on the carpet or grass or concrete. Rolling ollies are a completely different kettle of fish, and I frankly suck bad. I would say yes, stationary practice with ollieblocks or friendly mr. carpet helps to get the basic mechanics down. But as for muscle memory and rolling ollies, nah. They are two different beasts, my friends. You are adding one whole new vector to the equation (forward momentum), and your feet and your board don't really behave the same as if you were standing still. For example, I consistently rotate my board on rolling ollies in a half pop shuvit (annoying!)--carpet ollies are straight as an arrow. Any tips on this and also getting shuvits back underfoot would be appreciated in the techniques section.
maybe one ollie block would work effectively on top of the board as a footstop in the drag phase of the ollie, though, eh?
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Ollieblocks
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On 12/3/2002 PSR
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Dom,that's cool. I take things literally until proven otherwise.Duh. So,no harm done to the guys at Flowlab,one hopes...
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ollieblock/soft trucks
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On 12/2/2002 Dom
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PSR: I was just playing around about working for Ollieblocks. It was a joke. Sorry if you misunderstood. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. Something just struck me really wrong about the "susan" post. Apparently, I'm not the only one who sees it.
Carver: All I know of Flowlab is that I have two of their boards - one is fast and one is slow...and I got them both off of eBay, not from them.
Dom (not working in the industry, just a test rider at the expense of my own wallet)
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Ollie whobe whatee?
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On 12/2/2002 Jeff
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Ollie......I havnt seen this word on this site this much ever. Wish I could do one. My son says I need to learn. Its in the 30's here, these products both seem like a neat idea. Any good product will eventually have more then one person making variations on it. But, Its not helping either by having a pee match here. All though entertianing to a point.
I think the "try both products" answer is a good one.
carry on, Jeff
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Whiners
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On 12/2/2002 Buddur
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My bad! I did get the package from Michael a week ago containing 2 unused Tailbones and a Deathbox T-shirt in response to a trade that went sour due to the postal service. He did uphold his end of the bargain and then some by sending me more than we had bargained for and I truely appreciate it. I thank you very much!!!
Maybe if I too posted w/in a week instead of waiting 1.5 months, I would've gotten a rapid response also. Touche
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ollieblock/soft trucks
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On 12/2/2002 PSR
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Carver,re-read both Dom's and Ellis's posts.They Assume Susan works for soft trucks.Dom claims working for Ollieblocks(which is a Flowlab product in 'Europe'.Susan said she did not work for soft trucks. I don't think I missed anything,sarcasm aside,that makes me think that there's cause for Dom's "get real and get a life" quip. Reps with That attitude will turn me away from a company quickly. Nuf Said.
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Ollieblocks Rep.
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On 12/2/2002 Carver
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PSR: Is it just me or was Dom being sarcastic about working for Flowlab?
I don't think he was out of line at all. This forum is about sharing information we find about misc. products and it's pretty plain that Susan is somehow connected with one product over the other. He called her out on it - what's wrong with that?
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Ollieblocks Rep.
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On 12/2/2002 PSR
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Dom,you make rather loud,and bellicose assumptions to someone who has an opinion differing from your own.I believe that as a 'rep' for Flowlab,you ought to do a little 'time-out' before you go and post up.Susan's opinions,but more importantly,her observations,have a rightful place here,and don't deserve the feedback you slapped here. I know that changed MY mind on ollieblocks,and based on your 'opinion',I won't recommend them. If your posts are representitive of Flowlab's attitude,well,good luck,you'll be needing it..
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OLLIEBLOCKS
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On 12/2/2002 Dom
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Sure Susan, I work for Ollieblocks. They have a satalite office here in Europe and I help to promote their product in these forums much like you have tried to do with your fake Soft trux posting. Get real and get a life.
If you look at all of the postings concerning Ollieblocks/Soft trucks you'll see that in your two postings, you slammed a product more than I have in my year of posting in these forums.
Dom
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Ollieblocks
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On 12/2/2002
Ellis
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I have to agree with Dom. "Susan" comes across way too knowledgeable of the two products, obviously siding with one over the other which is fine. But, I was at the ASR show all three days and went by the Soft Trucks booth several times. Each time there was never a person working the booth that could even use the product, much less be a skater. We own three shops in the mid-west and plan to open another this coming year. I have been to more ASR shows in the past 6 years than anyone I know. And there is one thing that pops out when a new product shows up: whether or not the company is skater ran/owned. I don't think those fools in the Soft Trucks booth had ever stepped on a skateboard before.
The Ollieblocks are from Flowlab. Flowlab is ran by skaters and I'd much rather get my Ollie trainers from a company like that than Soft Trucks.
Derek Ellis - Skate Town
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Ollieblocks
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On 12/2/2002
susan
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Dom,
Thank you for your comments, no in fact I do not work for Softrucks.Perhaps you work for Ollieblocks? I am just sick of people slamming things they no nothing about or haven't at least tried. I have , however been on both Softrucks and Ollie blocks and feel Softrucks are a better performing product. Once again, I am suggesting someone else does what I did, try them both. I am not being "rude" I just am trying to point out people should be better informed(like trying both products as I did.) before they pass judgements. Do you not agree?
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Ollieblocks/Soft trux
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On 12/2/2002 Dom
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Susan - no need to be rude about the two products. You obviously work for Soft trux or you wouldn't have such one-sided comments regarding the two ollie trainers.
However, I believe the Ollieblocks would better simulate the movement of a skateboard truck because each "block" has one contact point, not two like the soft trux. Being that the board is stationary, the one with two contact points can't pivot like a regular skate truck right? The Ollieblocks with one contact point would probably feel more like a skateboard in it's ability to pivot like a skateboard with real trucks and wheels on it.
About Casper pushing soft trux: Tiger Woods pushes the Buick SUV - but, I'm pretty sure he wouldn't be caught dead in anything short of a Benz.
Dom
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Softrucks
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On 12/2/2002
Susan
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Lawsuit??? First of all Softrucks are patented if you would bother to check. Secondly, Ollie Blocks are not even close to Softrucks. They are made of hard plastic and dont feel at all like wheels. Softrucks have the same feel and pop as wheels. Why dont you guys call the 2 companies and get samples are you will see. Im sure they would be happy to send them to you. Or why don't you ask Bobby Casper, yeah the guy that invented the Casper Flip(or is that to old school?) who owns a set of softrucks and was on them all the time during ASR in San Diego and uses them now. Come on, don't be scared. Get them and compare. And by the way, whats wrong with a kid wanting to be a better skater through practice? And here on the East Coast its kinda nice to be able to keep sharp in the winter.
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Whingers
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On 11/30/2002
Michael
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A couple of weeks ago someone complained on this forum about sending stickers to me in the UK in return for a (used) tailbone. When I sent it to the 'states it had been removed/fallen from the packaging, so all the guy was left with were some stickers and an isuue of ILB, which I'd put in as 'extras'. Time passed...and I ended up seeing a rude post here about my service.
So......I found TWO sets of UNUSED tailbones, and threw in a Deathbox a T shirt to placate this guy.
Did he have the courtesy of posting the outcome here?
Nahhhhhh.
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OllieRocks
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On 11/29/2002
clayton
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Very funny post about ollie cox!
OllieCocks are too expensive though.
Howabout ollieRocks. Just find two stones that have the shape of your desire. Heavier ones will train your muscles more and lighter ones will make you go higher. I'm shure there are two perfect rocks for everyone.
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Ollieblocks
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On 11/29/2002 Dom
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Cary - thanks for the input. It's good to see feedback from someone who's actually been on the product.
Dom
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Ollieblocks
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On 11/27/2002 Cary
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I disagree that the Ollieblocks won't help you get ollie skills. I know, because I have a pair set up on an old deck that I use to practice ollies and kick flips in my living room. The Ollieblocks help to develop your ollie through muscle memory. Just like a rowing machine will help rowers develop the technique they use to row faster and better in the water, or a treadmill for runners.
My 2 Cents.
Cary
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Ollie Knocks
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On 11/27/2002
K-LEE
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Regardless of the physics involved, rolling ollies are MUCH easier than stationary ollies, plain and simple. I think the forward momentum helps you guide the board up with your leading foot; it helps you hook your front foot under the nose better. Stationary ollies feel different than moving ones. If you want to work on your stationary freestyle tricks, go for it, but the blocks won't help you ollie up a curb at all.
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ollie blocks and ollie socks
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On 11/27/2002
Clayton
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Antti,
you could combine the plastic pipe "ollie blocks" with those plastic pipe lappers seen earlier on NCDSA.
Wouldn't that be great? You'd have style to spare!
The other thing that works great are ollie socks. just put a sock on each wheel and ollie ollie ollie. make sure to use some tape if you are practicing kickflips.
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