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Q&A: Cliff Coleman on Sliding and Safety (1159 Posts)
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breaking gloves
On 10/20/2005 mike p wrote in from United States  (129.210.nnn.nnn)

one time i was speedboarding a hill and my pad fell off my right glove as i was coming into a hard righty that had water on it. and then there was a car in the way on that turn. i really dont know why, but i stayed standing and didnt fall. things could have been ugly though. that was back in the days of home-made velcro gloves. lesson for the day: velcro is cool, but dont use it in the rain. use ur glue-ons.

 
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Joe I.
On 10/17/2005 Cliff Coleman wrote in from United States  (68.127.nnn.nnn)

Joe,

Make sure that the pucks adhere to the glove and won't come off! If they did in the middle of a hill, it would surely be a problem. Buy gloves that are the correct size for the kid. I don't have any idea of his age or size? Go to McMaster.com and buy the oil impregnated UHMWPE. It great plastic and will probably outlast the young one. There is lots of information on the web about making "slider gloves". Do a search and see what you get. If you have any trouble, get back to me or try Timeship Racing. They have smaller gloves for children.

Good Luck,
Cliff Coleman

 
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The first step
On 10/15/2005 Joe I wrote in from United States  (24.2.nnn.nnn)

Cliff,

Is there any wrong way to make gloves? Perhaps with the puck too big or in the wrong place?

Making gloves for Nick and don't want to hurt the little fellow because he'll tell his Mom it's my fault.

Thanks,
Joe

 
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Ethan
On 10/15/2005 Cliff Coleman wrote in from United States  (68.127.nnn.nnn)

Ethan,

Great news regarding your new gloves. You are always welcome to slide with me if you are in the area. At this moment, you can learn easily without me being there to teach you. Go to "cliffslider.com". Then go to "Articles". Then enlarge the text so you can read my article on how to slide. It is called, "Street Slidin". If you have any problems at all, then stay in touch via e-mail. You could learn slide techniques in 5 minutes with me. On your own you might get it in less than a half hour. It's great fun and easy to do. For a minute when we were in Morro Bay, I thought Adam Schwippert's Mother was going to give it a go. By the way, Adam got it on the first try. He is good, but it is also that easy.

Have fun and say hello to your Dad and Mom. It was very nice visiting with them at the Worlds.

Cliff Coleman

 
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got me some gloves
On 10/14/2005 Ethan wrote in from United States  (65.60.nnn.nnn)

hey Cliff,i just ordered my first pair of sliding gloves. took long enough ehh?
i guess now im gonna have to go back to cali and get some private sliding lessons with the man himself???

 
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TimeShip calling Cliff
On 10/12/2005 GI Joe wrote in from United States  (65.19.nnn.nnn)

Hey Skater, your sponsor has been working on a new pair of gloves for you
incorporating some of suggestions that you have made to me over the past year.
Quick questions...Finger pucks or no, and shall I send them to the same address
as before?

Wrist guards do limit wrist movement, but if you are over 40 and just learning
slides then I suggest using both until you start to get it. I still do when
skating the Bear, and Bear Paws are big enough to handle the job!

 
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wrist guards
On 10/11/2005 Aenghooste wrote in from United Kingdom  (193.113.nnn.nnn)

Hi, just wanted to say a friend of mine tried the glove wrist guard combo and because of the wrist guard it stops the mobility of the wrist, an integral factor in sliding. Just stay low and use slide gloves, if you dont have far to fall you wont need the wrist guards!

 
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goofy-foot
On 10/8/2005 Cliff Coleman wrote in from United States  (68.127.nnn.nnn)

goofy-foot,

Wrist Guards are not to be confused with Slider Gloves! The only way to use Wrist Guards if skateboarding, is to use them under Slide Gloves. This would require a larger glove, such as a welder's glove with a slide puck. You live in Venezuela. The weather is hot there much of the year. Welder's gloves with Wrist Guards underneath would be hot and sweaty. I have never had a problem with my wrists while using Slider Gloves. I would suggest that you try a glove like the Timeship Slider glove with the knuckle protection and replaceable pucks. They are light weight and very protective.

Cliff Coleman

 
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re:
On 10/8/2005 dan@csu wrote in from United States  (216.17.nnn.nnn)

my very first pair of 'slide gloves' were old rollerblade wrist guards that had plastic sticking out by the upper wrist- they lasted a couple weeks. thanks for humoring my story :) to answer your question- most people i know just use slide gloves- you should be ok with just them as long as you learn to slide at lower speeds in a SAFE, controlled environment.

 
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wrist guards, slide gloves or both?
On 10/8/2005 goofy-foot wrote in from Venezuela  (200.35.nnn.nnn)

Hey! I am almost 40 and looking to skate again. Just bought a longboard and plan to slide, but I don´t want to go to any hill until I am oiled and well protected. I already have knee and elbow pads. I am looking for a Helmet and, slide gloves or wrist guards, but don´t know what´s best. Do you use wrist guards with your slide gloves? What do you use?

 
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Mmmmmmmmmmmm?
On 10/4/2005 Cliff Coleman wrote in from United States  (68.127.nnn.nnn)

Steak!

 
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One Footed Pendulum
On 10/4/2005 lonerider wrote in from United States  (65.249.nnn.nnn)

Hey Dan, thanks for the suggestions, I definitely notice you need more speed for toeside pendulums as you mentioned, but speed was not an issue for my heelside pendulums. The problem was that my slide hand was too far towards the nose of the board, this would prevent my shoulders from fully rotating and swing the weight off my right foot and I would end up trying to do a one footed pendulum after 180.

 
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some thoughts
On 10/4/2005 dan@csu wrote in from United States  (216.17.nnn.nnn)

lonerider i'm no cliff but i have toe/heel pendulums down fine. something that might help you- you might not be going fast enough because it should actually be easier to swing back to regular if you're going all the way to 180, that's the whole concept of a pendulum. speed is really important for me for the toesides because it seems to take me longer to complete the slide than heelsides so i lose more speed. and you must commit torsion in your upper body as well as your lower body- ie. just pusing the slide with your legs is no good because most of your weight and momentum is in your upper body. this will become especially important when attempting stand ups or 360's. wear whatever protection you need to in order to wholly committ at speed and you'll progress faster. or be like some of my friends and smoke some weed 1st- they bomb 40mph in shorts, t-shirts and FLIP FLOPS. hope the serious part of my advice helps -dan

 
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Think I got part of it
On 10/4/2005 lonerider wrote in from United States  (65.249.nnn.nnn)

An update, got some advice from people on SF and was told to straighten my elbow on my slide arm and bring the my slide hand closer to my rear trucks (in the video I have my slide hand near the nose of the board and still a bit bent) and that seems to open up my lead shoulder and lets me get a smoother upper body rotation, which translated into a more rotation in the legs/board. I had a quick session after work last night and got 2 full 180 rotations in my heelsides (so I'm actually rolling switch for a moment before reverting back via the pendulum). I need to try it a few more times to confirm I've gotten it... then I move onto making my toeside pendulums smoother.

 
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sliders
On 10/3/2005 nick wrote in from United States  (68.185.nnn.nnn)

dude, my earliest memory of seeing slidin was the bones brigade show. then i saw a couple of skate movies with with some high speed slahing too. myself i always skated alleys with my buddies in ob san diego. you should for sure sk8 point loma area. since i moved to sactown, the only time i went down hillin is when i slashed down mason street. i had some machanix glove they seem to last all the way down to almost the bottom. anyway glad to hear your still shreddin.

 
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Heelside Pendulums
On 10/3/2005 lonerider wrote in from United States  (65.249.nnn.nnn)

Hi, I've been practicing slide for the last month and can do heelside pendulum except for the fact that I don't get it all the way 180 before I revert back. Whenever I try to push the board to a full 180, I think I get too much weight on my front foot (left) and none on my backfoot (right) and I pop off as the board kind of bucks me off. I think I extend my body too far from my board, or I don't push out my rear leg enough... I will get a video of when I get knocked off, but I was wondering if you could take a lot at this and see if there are suggestions to my body positioning that you could suggest off the bat (I notice my knees aren't as tipped over as much as you suggest in that Faltown Slide Clinic video also my butt is noticeably farther back away from the board).

http://www.dotphoto.com/Go.asp?l=ChangArvin&P=&AID=125889&IID=94651158&T=1 (about 3 MB, it doesn't seem to work on Firefox, but works on IE).

 
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Nick
On 9/30/2005 Cliff Coleman wrote in from United States  (68.127.nnn.nnn)

Nick,

Last year I became the "B" group World Super Giant Slalom Champ. I figured this year that I would step up and race the Pros. For whatever reason, and without any excuses, I was SLOW! I SUCKED, and I'm now retired from slalom racing. I have no regrets and had a blast racing over the last five years. I'm much healthier from my involvement in Slalom racing. I'm grateful for that.

Next for me is to concentrate on pushing the Slide movement. I'm really enjoying watching Sliding as a disipline. It has taken on a life of its own. The friends that I've made who also enjoy sliding are very important to me!

Before I get too old, I must make a trip to Brazil! I want to skate with the Sliders there.

Cliff Coleman

 
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come back
On 9/30/2005 nick coleman wrote in from United States  (68.185.nnn.nnn)

cliff,

hows the racing coming along?

 
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Faltown Video
On 9/28/2005 Patrick wrote in from United States  (68.85.nnn.nnn)

The video of the clinic looked insane and gave me a ton of pointers. Thanks and keep up the killer slides.

 
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is cliff really an amazing physicist in hiding?
On 9/26/2005 dan@CSU wrote in from United States  (216.17.nnn.nnn)

cliff coleman on sliding, safety, and yo-yos. :)

 
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Cliff and Sergio Faltown Films
On 9/24/2005 boneless wrote in from United Kingdom  (80.3.nnn.nnn)

Dear Cliff,

We've finally finished editing the films from your Faltown Slide Clinic with Sergio

Three films now up at

http://www.saftandboneless.co.uk

Thanks again for a great weekend!
We can also send you a dvd so you can watch them properly if you wish.

 
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Dustin
On 9/21/2005 Cliff Coleman wrote in from United States  (68.127.nnn.nnn)

Dustin,

Thanks for the complement. I'm just a regular guy that started earlier than most.

Cliff Coleman

 
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Tyler
On 9/21/2005 Cliff Coleman wrote in from United States  (68.127.nnn.nnn)

Tyler,

Check the article "Street Slidin", at, "cliffslider.com". It says it all. If you still have trouble, tell me what is happening and I'll see if I can help you out.

Cliff Coleman

P.S. When you get to the article, click View on you tool bar and enlarge the text so that you can read the article and print it out.

 
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Jason
On 9/21/2005 Cliff Coleman wrote in from United States  (68.127.nnn.nnn)

Jason,

Thanks for the offer! I must tell you however that I don't ride metal decks. They are just too dangerous. I wouldn't want to lose my board and worry about what it might hit.

I ride a deck for sliding that is about 36" long and has an inside hole to hole measurement of 18.5". I have straight rails from the front to the back. The outside of the wheels line up with the outside of the deck. It also has a double kick and a slight concave.

Thanks again,
Cliff Coleman

 
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Sliding
On 9/21/2005 Tyler wrote in from United States  (65.24.nnn.nnn)

Yo what up clif my names Tyler im friends with Ethan White i just got a new board and were out skating and im trying to get some slides down but i cant get it going heal side and ethans flippin a s#@! so i was just looking for some pointers man so yeahh how bout it peace

 
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