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Bike Mike
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On 10/28/2005
Cliff Coleman
wrote in from
United States
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Bike Mike,
You will need hard 95a to 100a sheels for the spins you want to do. I'm doing well and skating many miles here in the Bay Area. I'm judging the Dec 3rd Gravity Slide Fest in San Diego, CA.
Cliff Coleman
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Cliff
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On 10/28/2005
BIKEMIKE
wrote in from
Canada
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360's 180's all out sliding spins that will be out of this world. and how have you been dude?.
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Bike Mike
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On 10/28/2005
Cliff Coleman
wrote in from
United States
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Bike Mike,
What kind of sliding are you getting into? I need to know before suggesting wheels for you.
Nice to hear from you Mike,
Cliff Coleman
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WHAT R THE BEST TYPE OF WHEELS
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On 10/28/2005
BIKEMIKE
wrote in from
Canada
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Hey Cliff it's BIKEMIKE here I just moved to Kamloops BC man let me tell yah there are some kick ass hills here and very steep hills to. what I meant to write is what are the best set ups for a board for sliding I'm really getting into sliding any suggestions. PEACE OUT FROME BIKEMIKE
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NYC Asphalt Surfer
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On 10/27/2005
Cliff Coleman
wrote in from
United States
(68.127.nnn.nnn)
Asphalt Surfer,
Your set up should work fine for you. Watch the hard wheels however for a while until you get used to them. If you need to ride cross town or longer distances, then switch to softer wheels.
Have fun,
Cliff Coleman
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Ethan
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On 10/27/2005
Cliff Coleman
wrote in from
United States
(68.127.nnn.nnn)
Ethan,
Wear your helmet when trying toeside slides! If you were to get bucked off toeside, you could get thrown right to the back of your head. This is no joke. Please take me seriously. I have consulted on a legal case where the rider hit the back of his head and had to have surgery to reduce the swelling. Another friend fromn Australia who is an engineer had the same surgery fior the same reason. He can't smell anymore. A cool light weight helmet will protect you from this kind of fall.
For information on pulling the 360, try to slide the first part more than 180! Immediately push the slide about 200 to 215 degrees and then it will rotate the rest of the spin easily. Takes commitment and more than one or two tries. Check the "slide school" at Faltownskateboards.com. They have some great video instruction.
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Thanks for the tips Cliff!
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On 10/27/2005 NYC Ashpalt Surfer
wrote in from
United States
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I ended up getting a good deal on a set Randal of Randal 150 trucks -plus- a set of Abec 11 65mm 96a Retro Vertz wheels. I'm going to stick with the Powell Peralta Skull & Sword (32.75" long by 9.5" wide with an upturned nose and tail).
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360's
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On 10/27/2005 Ethan
wrote in from
United States
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cliff, i keep tryin the 360 but i cant get it. i start out with a 2 handed backside slide, and try to spin to my left (im goof footed), into a and normal cliff slide. but i cant get the board to spin after the first 180. help me out im gettin frustrated.
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Tom
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On 10/27/2005
Cliff Coleman
wrote in from
United States
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Tom,
Just look a little more. It is about five post down the page.
Cliff Coleman
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General info Tom
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On 10/27/2005
Tom
wrote in from
United States
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Hi Cliff,
Where is the post for asphalt surfer ? Tried to type it in but got nowhere.
Thanks,
Tom
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Hans
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On 10/27/2005
Cliff Coleman
wrote in from
United States
(68.127.nnn.nnn)
Hans,
46" is a bit long for me. However, Fabrice from Canada and many, many others ride boards about that length and do a variety of slides. The hard wheels will take a little time to get used to after riding the softer ones. Take your time with the hard ones until you are comfortable with them. Then try whatever you like one move at a time.
Protect your head when you switch those wheels also! A 34 year old in Santa Cruz, CA just died from a head injury riding in a skate park. It seems he might not have had his helmet strappped properly.
Cliff Coleman
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Sliding on a 46 incher
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On 10/26/2005
Hans
wrote in from
United States
(216.206.nnn.nnn)
Hey Cliff,
I plan on getting a shorter board for sliding for Christmas, but for now I have a s9 46 inch board with a slight kicktail. If I get some Yuppies on that thing will I be able to pull off some nice slides? All I can do now is a 180 with some 78as but I feel the urge to do more. Thanks!
Hans
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Tom
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On 10/26/2005
Cliff Coleman
wrote in from
United States
(68.127.nnn.nnn)
Tom,
Check the post to Asphalt Surfer regarding equipment choices.
Regarding slider gloves, I use Timeship gloves. The ones with knuckle protection. There is also lots of information about other companies that make gloves and also information on how to make your own. You will have to do a search or just check Timeshipracing.com
Cliff Coleman
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NYC Asphalt Surfer
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On 10/26/2005
Cliff Coleman
wrote in from
United States
(68.127.nnn.nnn)
Asphalt Surfer,
If you live in the City and need to ride cross town for long distances, then you will be better off with a softer wheel. Something between 80a and 85a would work well. These would not be the choice if you want to learn trick slides with spinning 360s etc. If that is the case, try something between 90a and 99a. The hard wheels will not suit the rider who rides for longer distances.
Try trucks a little narrower. About 149 instead of 169. Make sure that the deck and the width of the trucks with wheels mounted matches.
A length of 36" would be nice with a kicktail.
Slider gloves are a must if you don't want to go howm to the family battered and bruised!
Cliff Coleman
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P.S.S. Tom
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On 10/26/2005
Tom
wrote in from
United States
(207.200.nnn.nnn)
Hi Cliff,
Keep up the great work on www.cliffslider.com. Great site !!!
Tom
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General info Tom
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On 10/26/2005
Tom
wrote in from
United States
(207.200.nnn.nnn)
Hi Cliff,
Thank you for your reply. I am 6'1 and weigh 160 lbs.. My longboard is a Big Gun shape with a slight kicktail.I have seen the Falltown vid and found it somewhat useful. To brief. I also need recomdations on gloves as well. I have a set of Spitfire big head softies which are quite hard and small. I really dont like them for as they are so hard. I also have a set of Krypto 65mm classic K's white which are soft but to small I think for my board.
Thank you for your help Cliff,
Tom
P.S.
Any plans for a slide clinic in Colorado??
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Recommended wheels for first time slider...
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On 10/25/2005 NYC Ashpalt Surfer
wrote in from
United States
(70.19.nnn.nnn)
I'm 5 foot 11 inches, 135 pounds. I'm and avid longboarder, but I've never tried sliding before. I've got a Powell-Peralta Skull & Sword reissue with Independent 169 trucks and BDS DubCons sitting in my closet collecting dust. I don't want to destroy my softer BDS wheels and I also figure that I will have a miserable time trying to get them to slide.
Anyway, what sliding wheel do you recommend? ABEC-11 No Skoolz -- Powell G-Bones -- Gravity Street G's? What durometer and should I buy a softer duro for the Winter?
I have read that the No-Skoolz are a favorite with some people but I have found them to be quite "grippy" (which is usually a good thing here in NYC!). Among my many boards, I have a Z-Flex pig with 65mm 88a ABEC-11 No-Skoolz that seems to stick to the NYC pavement like glue!
Also, I'm a bit nervous about the Independent trucks getting the speed wobbles. I normally ride Randals, Seismics, or Trackers and haven't had to deal with the "wobs" in quite some time.
I'm sorry for all the questions, but I have a full-time job, a wife, and a son and I don't want to kill myself out there trying to learn how to slide!!!
Thanks in advance for your time and effort...
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gloves
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On 10/25/2005 dan@csu
wrote in from
United States
(216.17.nnn.nnn)
if you're looking for sweet gloves, it's hard to beat motion longboard's model. purple skunk sells em. i've had them for a year now and they're awesome. much cheaper than timeships and just as good but without un-needed bells and whistles. replaceable velcroed pucks are cheap and last a long time because they're circular and can be rotated!
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Ethan
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On 10/25/2005
Cliff Coleman
wrote in from
United States
(68.127.nnn.nnn)
Ethan,
I don't use Gravity gloves. Its sounds like the plastic that they use from Brazil is not tough enough for you. My gloves are from Timeship Racing. They use durable plastic and have two style to choose from. The ones that I use have knuckle protection and replaceable pads. I don't promote fingerless gloves or wrist guards. Get gloves or make gloves with full finger protection. If you need replacement pucks, order from Mcmaster.com. Using their search window, type in UHMW. That will take you to an order page. Get a one foot square sheet of oil impregnated uhmwpe, ultra high molecular weight polyetheline. Then buy industrial strength velcro and get the sticky back version. Make a few pucks and there you go.
Your slide photo was pure STYLE! Loved it!
Cliff Coleman
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Tom
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On 10/25/2005
Cliff Coleman
wrote in from
United States
(68.127.nnn.nnn)
Tom,
I need to know how big or small you are? Does your deck have a kick tail or is it a pin tail? I'd change the trucks to Independent, or something like that. Randals are ok and you might like them? Fill in the details and I'll tell you what I think. Also, check the Faltown web-site. Check out their slide school page.
Cliff Coleman
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Replacements
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On 10/25/2005 Ethan
wrote in from
United States
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yo cliff, i got my half finger gravity gloves like 4 or 5 days ago. and allready i only got like 1/8 or 1/8" left of the puck. i thought gloves lasted longer than that. and i dont see where you can just buy replacement pucks only. que debo hacer?
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General info
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On 10/25/2005
Tom
wrote in from
United States
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Hi Cliff,
I ride a 48" hand made longboard by Original Rocket Brand. The board is firm.
I have eXskate trucks with 80mm Krypto blues. What advice can you give me on equipment and are there any dvd's that you can reccomend ? I need to learn to slide.
Thank you,
Tom
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general info
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On 10/25/2005
Tom
wrote in from
United States
(207.200.nnn.nnn)
Hi Cliff,
I ride a 48" hand made board by Original Rocket Brand. The board is stiff. My trucks are eXskate and the wheels are krypto 80mm blues. What advice can you give me on equipment for sliding and are there any dvd's you could reccomend for sliding ? I really need to learn.
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dvd
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On 10/24/2005
habib
wrote in from
Canada
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sweet, i've been waiting for this dvd for almost a year. can't wait to get it.
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Faltown DVD promo
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On 10/24/2005
Chris
wrote in from
United Kingdom
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The preview to our DVD is now on the website. It will be available to buy This Christmas. All the best bits from around the globe and some familiar faces from the slide scene."
http://www.faltownskateboards.com/faltownskateboards_media_DVD1.asp
shout out to cliff and the berkeley crew. wish we could come represent at the comp you've got going on stateside. take care and see you all soon
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